Posted on 07/27/2016 8:46:41 PM PDT by NRx
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
>> “This eliminates every person ever born, except for those of us who were given the FREE GIFT of salvation in the church age.” <<
Nonsense!
Yeshua declared the Pharisees to be the least righteous people on Earth. His entire Earthly ministry was dedicated to demolishing Phariseeism, and their litany of false added commandments.
Each of Yeshua’s miracles was done to demolish one of the Pharisees’ Takanot. If you fail to grasp that very basic point, you will never understand a word that Yeshua uttered.
The Pharisees were the precursor model for the nicolaitans that would create “christianity” in the mid 4th century to replace Yeshua’s Netzerim.
The "Church Age" is a false age that is nowhere to be found in Yehova's word.
There is no "church," it is a mistranslation that should be "assembly," which began with Adam, and will continue to the Last Trump.
There is no New Covenant, but a renewed covenant with his ancient assembly, renewed in the perfect sacrifice to which his believing assembly looked forward for millennia.
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Aren't we all!
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;
and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,
and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)
Oh?
I think you Mormons without a valid TR will get a RUDE awakening when you find out you'll be in 'heaven' with the likes of ME for Eternity!
HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):
SALVATION: A word that Mormons qualify in one of three ways: unconditional or general salvation is simply resurrection from the dead, granted to all through Christ's atonement; conditional or individual salvation involves entering the celestial kingdom through works of Mormonism; full salvation means exaltation to become a God as a result of temple ceremonies and other works. The word 'salvation' can have a two-fold meaning: a) forgiveness of sins and b) universal resurrection:
The Mormons have several different levels of "salvation".
Does anyone else think it strange that Mormons here on FR do NOT seem to want to discuss the MORMON theological attributes that make it so much better than the corrupted Christianity that America is based upon?
Hey Nana!
Provenance or not???
Hey Nana!
Provenance or not???
Now Elsie dear whyya havta goindo that for ???
No, they would not, and if that is the characteristic fruit of their faith then it is not the faith that is counted for righteousness, (cf. Rm. 4:5,6) and renders one accepted in the Beloved, (Eph. 1:6) but a vain faith which will not save them. Biblical saving faith is that which trusts in the risen Lord Jesus to save them on His account, by His sinless shed blood, and not their own merits. (Ps. 34:18; Rm. 3:10-5:1; Titus 3:5; Eph. 2:8,9) But such faith effects characteristic obedience, with "things that accompany salvation," (Heb. 6:9) including repentance when convicted of not obeying God, while such as those who impenitently refuse to provide for their own have denied the faith. (1Tim. 5:8)
But the problem is that your "you have to become Christ like in this life" statement infers that one must attain to a state of perfection of character in order to enter Heaven, which is the damnable error of Rome with its purgatory to attain such. For while works justify faith as being salvific, and which faith is rewarded. (Heb. 10:35) yet holy character and works are not the actual cause of justification, though such are a necessary fruit if faith is to be considered true and salvific. We do not try to be Godly in order to be saved, but trust in the Lord Jesus Christ to save us, and He works in and thru us with fruits of the Spirit.
The Beatitudes describe the character of saving faith, but do not teach that unfailing conformity to them is required for salvation, nor any others standard for practical perfection. Certainly the Heaven-bound contrite criminal on the cross did not attain to this state, nor did the Heaven-bound apostle Paul. (Phil. 3:10) But which perfection he sought after, though he professed that he was already saved. (Phil. 1:23)
For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. (Philippians 1:23-24)
I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. (Philippians 3:14-15)
For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. (Philippians 3:20-21)
15 We ourselves are Jews by birth, and not gentile sinners, 16 yet we know that a person is not justified by doing what the Law requires, but rather by the faithfulness of Jesus the Messiah. We, too, have believed in the Messiah Jesus so that we might be justified by the faithfulness of the Messiah and not by doing what the Law requires, for no human being will be justified by doing what the Law requires. 17 Now if we, while trying to be justified by the Messiah, have been found to be sinners, does that mean that the Messiah is serving the interests of sin? Of course not! 18 For if I rebuild something that I tore down, I demonstrate that I am a wrongdoer. 19 For through the Law I died to the Law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with the Messiah. 20 I no longer live, but the Messiah lives in me, and the life that I am now living in this body I live by the faithfulness of the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. 21 I do not misapply God’s grace, for if righteousness comes about by doing what the Law requires, then the Messiah died for nothing.3:1 You foolish Galatians! Who put you under a spell? Was not Jesus the Messiah clearly portrayed before your very eyes as having been crucified? 2 I want to learn only one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by doing the actions of the Law or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? Having started out with the Spirit, are you now ending up with the flesh? 4 Did you suffer so much for nothing? (If it really was for nothing!) 5 Does God supply you with the Spirit and work miracles among you because you do the actions of the Law or because you believe what you heard? 6 In the same way, Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”
10 Certainly all who depend on the actions of the Law are under a curse. For it is written, “A curse on everyone who does not obey everything that is written in the Book of the Law!” 11 Now it is obvious that no one is justified in the sight of God by the Law, because “The righteous will live by faith.” 12 But the Law has nothing to do with faith. Instead, “The person who keeps the commandments will have life in them.” 13 The Messiah redeemed us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse for us. For it is written, “A curse on everyone who is hung on a tree!” 14 This happened in order that the blessing promised to Abraham would come to the gentiles through the Messiah Jesus, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith.
You could do with reading some of Paul’s letter, too.
What the Galatians heard was Torah.
As Peter wrote, many are lost by wresting with Paul’s words; do not let that happen to you.
The Galatians had been led away from Torah and into the Pharisees’ false ‘oral’ law.
Following the pharisees was a common problem all around the Mediterranean.
The pastors of most churches today are pharisees of a sort, preaching a man made religion called christianity, rather than the faith that Yeshua’s netzerim followed.
You are ... lost, directly contradicting The Bible, The Word of God. Just read what Paul wrote. Get Rood out of your head.
Your comment demonstrates that you have no concept of what the word "grace" even means.
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. (Romans 11:6)
Luke 22:20
Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Hebrews 8:8
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Hebrews 8:13
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Hebrews 12:24
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
By God's Grace, Amen!
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No The word of Yehova is in perfect agreement with what I posted.
The word “new” is in every case a mistranslation, which is upheld by the context in which it is used.
Yeshua confirmed the covenant in his blood that was foretold by Jeremiah, which covenant was ancient.
Also the covenant was with the two houses of Israel who are the assembly, not with an imaginary church. Jeremiah establishes this fact well.
It has to be understood that all of our translated Bibles had to please the nobility of the time at which they were produced, all of whom wanted a church under their control rather than Yehova’s assembly.
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