Ann Barnhardt dumps Francis, seeks Refuge in Benedict XVI

Novus Ordo Watch ^ | June 20, 2016 | Novus Ordo Watch

[SGNA]

Yes, the Roman Catholic Church has indeed spoken and here is what She decreed:

CUM EX APOSTOLATUS OFFICIO - APOSTOLIC CONSTITUTION OF HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL IV, 15TH FEBUARY 1559 - (ROMAN BULLARIUM VOL. IV. SEC. I, PP. 354-357)

6. In addition, [by this Our Constitution, which is to remain valid in perpetuity We enact, determine, decree and define:-]

that if ever at any time it shall appear that any Bishop, even if he be acting as an Archbishop, Patriarch or Primate; or any Cardinal of the aforesaid Roman Church, or, as has already been mentioned, any legate, or even the Roman Pontiff, prior to his promotion or his elevation as Cardinal or Roman Pontiff, has deviated from the Catholic Faith or fallen into some heresy:

(i) the promotion or elevation, even if it shall have been uncontested and by the unanimous assent of all the Cardinals, shall be null, void and worthless;

[jobim]

But it will be for a future (or present, but extremely unlikely)
canonical juridical process to ascertain nullity of Francis.
Otherwise we are Luthers and Calvins and Wesleys
determining the status of the One Holy Catholic and
Apostolic Church individually. This we cannot do.

[SGNA]

They are ALL heretics. There is no one in the hierachy who is not.

Obeying what the Church has decreed, KEEPING the FAITH whole and entire is NOT departing from the Church, it is staying within Her.

As for the Vaticab-2 sect, let the dead bury the dead.

[newfreep]

“If you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterback,”

This pope is a pure leftwing marxist preaching Liberation Theology.

[ebb tide]

Thanks for the ping. Skojec seems to have contradicted himself the day after he criticized Barnhardt's argument:

Pope John Paul II: “A Pope Emeritus is Impossible”

[piusv]

There is only one pope at any given moment in time.

Or none at all.

[jobim]

This where you & I part company. I wish you and Ann
and all of the fellow congregants well. For me, I choose
to remain inside the Church and spend my life fighting
for the truth, and yes, against the legion of heretics that
infest the Vatican now, as well as countless bishoprics,
chanceries, and rectories. To whom else will I go?

[SGNA]

Thank you, as stated in the article you linked, it goes back to the plotters and plot to destroy the OFFICE of the Papacy in addition to having a heretic APPEAR to hold the Office.

Nardi reports that just a few years earlier, in July of 2002, the question of a possible retirement was was put to the Pope himself, and his response was clear and emphatic:

“A Pope Emeritus is impossible.”

This exchange is reported to have taken place at the Toronto residence of Cardinal Gerald Emmett Carter between the Pope and former media magnate Lord Conrad Black. Black first reported the conversation in a 2005 issue of the Catholic Herald.

Carter pushing for Wojtyla's resignation fits the time frame of Gottfried's Danneels statement in 2003 that after Wojtyla they would have a Committee to replace the Papacy with each sitting member rotating as head for a fixed term, say six months.

Ratzinger was not forced out. He resigned to set in motion the destruction of the OFFICE of the Papacy as well.

[SunLakesJeff]

Saw this thread earlier. One step at a time?

I like this journey - my existing Novus Ordo is now considering a TLM.

[Mrs. Don-o]

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[SunLakesJeff]

I'd gladly throw a block for Ratzinger than Bergolio. But that's why the Holy Spirit gives us, ahem, a playbook.

[piusv]

Ratzinger was not forced out. He resigned to set in motion the destruction of the OFFICE of the Papacy as well.

Exactly. It certainly created a good cop-bad cop situation, now didn't it? One of these guys must be the real pope, right?

[SGNA]

Bill Clinton versus Obama? ;-)

[SunLakesJeff]

I sit in awe and shame as I lurk Prots ganging up on you daily. I pray for rhetorical skill, on your part. You have courage in abundance.

I've noticed the "Caucus" threads are immune to insect repellent - speaking as an RCIA alumnus, forum behavior may speak to psychological lack of faith, which is, supposedly, in infinite supply...

[SunLakesJeff]

Clinton would run for the first down marker.

[SGNA]

Exactly. It certainly created a good cop-bad cop situation, now didn't it? One of these guys must be the real pope, right?

Precisely. In the present world, in all areas, we are only permitted two not just flawed choices, but FALSE ones.

We are not permitted to search for the true teaching, or to step back from the puzzle in order to properly study it, let alone be permitted to draw the sword of truth to slice through the Gordian Knot.

If only everyone would first realize that the present world is as real as professional wrestling, being forced to cheer for one false side or the other false side, and it is a completely controlled environment, it would be a step in the right direction.

[SGNA]

I’ll give him that!

[SunLakesJeff]

Is the last paragraph (yours), from Summa Theologica?

[SGNA]

Notable from Mario's essay:

But, no matter. For Barnhardt, Benedict XVI is a valid Pope because he is a heretic, that is, he espouses a heretical concept of the papacy (she does not say it is heretical, but it is). If that isn’t putting everything upside down, similar to what Francis just did as he declared marriage to be fornication and fornication to be marriage, it is hard to imagine what would be.

So, if anything, Barnhardt ought to conclude that Benedict XVI cannot be Pope because he holds to a heretical concept of the papacy. Instead, she has persuaded herself that this heresy is not what makes his election or continued putative papacy invalid, but his resignation! This is absurdity on stilts!

Barnhardt says that “Pope Benedict XVI Ratzinger’s ontology is CLEARLY warped”, but hers is no less so: She believes a man who professes heresy against the papacy is Pope precisely because of that heresy, which rendered his resignation invalid.

[cherry]

all entities that hold power will ultimately become corrupt...that goes for Lutherans, Jews, Presbyterians, Baptists, Mormons, etc...