Posted on 02/06/2016 6:47:24 PM PST by pastorbillrandles
There are, at least indirectly, prophecies that could only be fulfilled if Israel exits as a nation prior to the day of the Lord - what many call the 'second coming', which also isn't mentioned in the Bible by that terminology. For indeed didn't the Lord appear to his disciples numerous times, even after he had risen?
So I'm not too sure there will not be a rapture of those who belong to him, prior to what scripture calls 'the day of the Lord'.
Christ died, then next day was the Sabbath of Unleavened Bread. After the Sabbath, Mary Magdalene and Mary, the mother of Jesus, bought & prepared the spices and the next day they rested on the weekly Sabbath. And at the close of the weekly Sabbath they went to the tomb and found the stone rolled away and the tomb empty.
There were 2 Sabbaths that week with a day in between those Sabbaths in which the women bought & prepared the spices. It is not complicated, it is the theologians trying to harmonize the Passion week with the man made doctrines & traditions that have confused everything and everybody. Shalom
Please list one passage saying that the nation of Israel is re-gathered and ruling the land before Christ returns. I thought the nation of Israel was the body of Christ, always has been and always will be according to Christ & His Apostles. From the beginning, Israel has always been the believers, some of whom have yet to answer the call to join the faith, many of whom will not join until they see Him whom they pierced and weep for Him. Shalom
Pro 2:20 So walk in the way of goodness, And guard the paths of righteousness. 21 For the straight shall dwell in the earth, And the perfect be left in it; 22 But the wrong shall be cut off from the earth, And the treacherous ones plucked out of it.
Zechariah 14:1 Behold, a day is coming for the LORD when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you. 2For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city. 3Then the LORD will go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fights on a day of battle.…
I thought the nation of Israel was the body of Christ.
Not prior to the day Christ returns - as I understand it. Prior to Christ's return, the nation of Israel and those in Christ will be separate bodies.
In Matthew 23:39, "for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!'", Yeshua/Jesus is speaking to the Jewish people.
Knowing how few Jews accept Yeshua as Messiah today, things must become very dire in Israel indeed, as prophesied, before someone(s) in that nation, make the very proclamation Yeshua prophesied, "you shall see Me no more till you say, 'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!'".
This in itself, among many, indicates prior to Christ's return, Christians and Jews are separate.
Was the first day of the week, the third day since Jesus was crucified?
Why do you think it was noteworthy for the disciples to remark in Luke 24:21 that day was the third day since this happened?
It is rather obvious that it was noteworthy because Jesus said he would rise on the third day in Luke 9:22.
So if the first day of the week ( Our Sunday ) was absolutely when Jesus rose, than the crucifixion had to have occurred on the sixth day ( our Friday )
Simple logic and math.
Problems galore:
The Scriptures never say there were two Sabbaths that week. Not once.
Secondly, if there were two Sabbaths, they could have gone to the tomb in between the Sabbaths. It doesn’t take 24 hours to buy spices.
The math doesn’t add up, if Jesus died on Wednesday, the third day would be Friday. If he rose on the Sabbath, that was the 4th day from Wednesday and Sunday was the 5th day. The Scriptures are clear, he rose on the third day.
Finally, Luke 23:56 states the women rested according to the commandment. This tells us they next day was the 7th day, since that is a day of rest in the 10 commandments.
Those few lines say a lot, and I believe refer to the times after, and during, the tribulation. Countless numbers will ride out the end of age tribulation here on earth, those not caught up in a 'rapture', with the righteous among them afforded Divine protection.
The ending of this age will be complex and much of it a mystery, until it actually unfolds.
Luke 22 Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew near, which is called Passover.:
Passover is a high Sabbath. So yes indeed, there were two Sabbaths that week.
Secondly, if there were two Sabbaths, they could have gone to the tomb in between the Sabbaths. It doesn’t take 24 hours to buy spices.
The tomb had been sealed with an iron rod, with molten lead poured around it to seal it in place, and guards posted - no way the women were getting inside that tomb.
Two Sabbaths ... it was preparation day and the Sabbath was beginning .... thus ALL the shops would have been closed the next day ..... after that Sabbath, for it was a High Sabbath of Unleavened Bread, the next morning when the shops were open they then bought the spices and went home and prepared them ... they then rested according to the Commandment of the weekly Sabbath... AND then as that weekly Sabbath day was coming to a close they went to the tomb and then they immediately went to the disciples, the disciples then came and thus yes, it was still the 3rd day, the closing of the weekly Sabbath day.
It is not complicated once one sets aside the man made religious doctrines and traditions and simply relies on the Gospel that was preached to those in the Wilderness, the same Gospel that Christ & His disciples taught & preached. It was all revealed by Moses just as Jesus said it was. 3 days and 3 nights, then the ascension into Heaven, Christ being the first fruits of the harvest. Shalom
I repeat, the Scriptures never state there were two Sabbaths that week.
Passover fell on the 7th day Sabbath, which made it a high sabbath.
No where does the Bible tell us the women rested twice.
The tomb was sealed the same way whether the women visited on Friday or Sunday. If there were two Sabbaths that week, the women could have anointed the body Friday.
You are all confused. The third day was on Sunday as made clear in Luke 24.
Hopefully you agree Jesus rose on the third day. If not, there is no need to go on. If however you agree with Luke 9:22 and Jesus rose on the third day, count the days from Wednesday:
Wednesday - day one
Thursday - day 2
Friday - day 3
Saturday - day 4
Sunday - day 5
Even allowing for your rising on the Sabbath, that was day 4 from Wednesday which violates Luke 9:22.
The only scenario that fits all the Bible is what Christians have believed from 33ad on, Jesus died on Friday and rose on the third day, Sunday.
Col 2:16 Let no one therefore judge you - in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths - 17 which are a shadow of what is to come - but the body of Christ
And the end is not complex, it is the false teachings of religion that make it complex. Sure we do not know the day or year, but we do know the Appointed time (season/mo’edim) because Moses told us, the prophets told us, David told us in his Psalms & even Christ and John told us, if only we would have ears to hear & eyes to see, if only we had hearts humbled to receive His truth ... these are big ifs and they matter much because without them, we are but the blind being lead by the blind, all of which is heading to the pit of destruction. Many are called, but few are chosen ... because the gate is narrow and the path full of tribulation ... to he who overcomes, these become the children of God. ... Shalom
Mat 12:40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
You have to get over this Sunday resurrection that is not written about. Resurrection Sunday is a man made doctrine, period, it is not Scriptural because the ONLY way for Christ to have fulfilled the Leviticus 23 requirements that He had to fulfill to be the Messiah, those fulfillment along with the sign of Jonah, the ONLY scenario that fits the biblical prophecy is the one given by the Apostles in the 4 combined Gospel accounts that I have already covered in detail.
There was a supernatural darkness for His crucifixion because the Lamb was to be slain in the ‘evening’- Exodus 12:6
Ereb-#6153 strongs- ‘evening’’twilight’, fading of the day..
That ereb is the same word used in Genesis and Creation that you reference..
Thing about ‘twilight’ or fading of the day: it requires ‘light’ to come first.. One doesn’t have ‘twilight’ without Light first. One cannot have the ‘fading of the day’ without ‘day’ first.
That is elementary stuff.
Which is exactly how Creation worked. And why He was buried on the 14th day and could have been done right up until ‘morning’ (boqer- strongs #1242- morning,break of dawn.. (As in the sun breaking the horizon) and it would still be the 14th ‘24 hour’ day.
And the accounts is at dawn (which is when tne sun rays touch kiss the horizon, is when He was raised) He was raised. It is still ‘dark’ at dawn. Creation can show us that. that is what the New Testament states.
That is ‘morning’ in Creation.
Creation goes very plainly:
He spoke Light- amd called the Light ‘Day’.
.He called the dark ‘Night’.
There was evening(’twilight’)
And there was morning (’break of dawn’)
new ‘light’ for new day..
So, According to Scripture:
1.Light (Day)
2.Work performed
3.Twilight (less light)
4.Dark (Night) no light- no work
5.Break of Dawn-New light and New Day
6. Work performed, etc.
It explains why there is no ‘then there was evening and morning’ after the 7th Day description.
His Sabbath is only the ‘Day’ portion. 12 hours .and it ends at ‘twilight’. So evening and morning isnt a Day- technically it’s ‘night’ - which is why He said people will stumble in the dark.
Which is also why, when Israel murmurred to Moses and Aaron about hunger, on the 15th day of the 2nd month in the wilderness, El Shadaii waited until the evening (twilight) of the 15th and fed them quail.
And then fed them Bread for Heaven in the morning. (The 16th Day)
See you Tomorrow isn’t said at 4:00 pm if you will see someone at 9:00 at night that night.
Tomorrow is tomorrow. And Moses said it in that same description as the 6th day of manna(exodds 16:23)
With the calendar He showed Ezekiel, the 15th Day of every month is the weekly 7th Day Sabbath. And the next day (when Manna came) was the 16th Day- the 1st work day of week 3 of the Father’s calendar. And why Israel observed their first Sabbath on the 22nd day of the 2nd month. And its why the 22nd day of the 7th month is also a Sabbath according to Scripture.
He changes not.
It is what Creation shows..it is what scripture shows and again, logically, we cannot have ‘twilight’ or the fading of a day without light (day) coming first.
The only ‘Sabbath’ that starts in the ‘twilight’ is the 9th day of the 10th month.
And that is because people would eat after the day of work during the day of the 9th and He wanted to make sure they afflicted themselves for a full 24 hours. ( which is 12 hours of ‘day’ and 3 or 4 watches in the night)
And with the Ezekiel template, He naturally places a work day between the 8th Day of the 7th month weekly Sabbath and the annual 9th day at ‘twilight’ to 10th day at ‘twilight’ Sabbath.
He gives one full 12 hours of daylight to help His people to prepare for His day of atonement. Which is the day that commemorates when He was presented in the temple after His birth 40 days earlier.
And the day He began His 3 1/2 year ministry when He was baptised on His 30th birthday and spent 40 days in the wilderness.
Judaism and Christianity would be blessed to know these things.
Ask Him simply why He gave separate instructions to Ezekiel in Ezekiel 46:1 for New Moon Days.
He didnt clump New Moon Days with His 6 working days or His 7th Day Sabbath.. Its a different day.
One answer is found in Genesis.
We can know why the enemy wants people to ignore New Moon Days- the King was born on one and then circumcised on the 8th day, which is His 7th Day Sabbath.. (1+6+1)- 2 ‘moeds’ He taught Israel.
And then people, if they test it, won’t be blinded by conformity to Satan’s calendar.
He doesn’t start His Days in the dark,according to Scripture. That is when Day (Light) ends and the Night(dark) begins.
It is really that simple. And religion can’t get it right. Because of traditions of men..and Satan blinding us.
It will change how one sees religion and the rest of the babylonian world.. And Rabbinic Judaism doesn’t have the Son so Scripture says they don’t have the Father.
And I don’t trust them like I don’t trust Rome- and both would be considerex ‘antichrists’, according to scripture- and He has blessed my testing and proving all things- even something as simple as when does a day begin.
And His Word and His Creation says Judaism and Rome are wrong.
All for His Glory! May He show people of faith His ways. Sanctifying us with His Truth.
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He was placed in the tomb BEFORE sunset so as to not violate the Sabbath. So we must count the day Jesus died as day one.
Ask a Jewish rabbi how Jews count days. Ask him if a Jewish boy is born on Friday, what is the 8th day he must be circumcised on?
Once you determine that, you can see that Sunday is the third day from Friday.
Why do you think it was so noteworthy for the disciples to note in Luke 24:21 that Sunday was the THIRD DAY since Jesus was crucified? That is an odd statement to make unless it is confirmation of what Jesus stated in Luke 9:22.
Zec 12:5 And the chiefs of Judah shall say in their heart: ‘The inhabitants of Jerusalem are my strength through the LORD of hosts their God.’
Their God, not "OUR" God. The LORD (YHWH) of Hosts is NOT the God of the chiefs of Judah, therefore, the ones ruling over Judah in the land in the end days is not of any of the tribes of Israel, not even Judah. And yes, there are many of Judah in the land, there always have been as God prophesied there would be. He promised that there would ALWAYS be a remnant of His people present in His land, it is just that His remnant are not those ruling the land, they are those whom the ruler of the land in the latter days have oppressed & persecuted.
Feet & toes of iron & clay, the sons of God who have mixed with the seed of the flesh and therefore, they may look like they are obeying God, however, they are not of God. Matthew 21, Daniel 2 ... those crushed by the Stone cut from the mountain by no human hands, that stone crushes the feet & toes of iron & clay.
Mat 21:42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: “’The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’?
Mat 21:43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits.
Mat 21:44 And the one who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; and when it falls on anyone, it will crush him.”
Mat 21:45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them.
Count however you with, I choose to count as Jesus did, there was evening and morning day 1, there was evening and morning day 2, there was evening and morning day 3 ... the day began in the evening and so the 3rd day was up at the end of the 3rd day which was just before the beginning of the 4th day which began at evening.
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