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Former Mars Hill Pastor Mark Driscoll to Start New Church in Phoenix
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/former-mars-hill-pastor-to-start-new-church-in-phoenix/ ^ | February 4, 2016 | Nina Shapiro

Posted on 02/04/2016 7:32:02 PM PST by Cecily

Mark Driscoll finally made it official: He’s starting a new church in Phoenix. The culmination of a comeback that has been gaining steam over the past year, the former Mars Hill pastor announced the news of The Trinity Church on Monday by email, Twitter and a new website.

In a folksy video on the site, which begins with a “howdy” from Driscoll, the pastor said he and his wife, Grace, sitting by his side, were “hoping, trusting, praying, planning and also a little” — he made a jokey grimace — “worrying about planting a church here.”

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1 posted on 02/04/2016 7:32:02 PM PST by Cecily
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To: Cecily

I think he should take time to make sure his issues are resolved.

...but who am I to judge the servant of another?


2 posted on 02/04/2016 7:43:16 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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To: Cecily

Wasn’t this guy caught up in some scandal?

Can’t remember the details...


3 posted on 02/04/2016 7:46:41 PM PST by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I was not a fan of Driscoll. He made my skin crawl when I read some of this articles in the past but I do hope for the best and that he turns his heart over to Christ.


4 posted on 02/04/2016 7:47:05 PM PST by dragonblustar
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To: Cecily

I attended his church a few times in Seattle before the fall from grace. I actually liked his style and his messages. I pray all issues are resolved and through this, he can have an even greater impact for the Kingdom.


5 posted on 02/04/2016 7:57:22 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Cecily

A very talented man. Blown to bits by his own arrogance.

It’s too soon for him to re-enter. He needs 5 years with an old wise man in some obscure place.


6 posted on 02/04/2016 8:24:58 PM PST by lurk
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To: Cecily

Wolf in sheep’s clothing.


7 posted on 02/04/2016 8:44:27 PM PST by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:3-4)
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To: Cecily

Ted Haggard has a thriving church here in Colorado Springs despite being caught snorting coke off a gay prostitute’s ass. Amazing what some people will fall for.


8 posted on 02/04/2016 8:51:48 PM PST by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: Cecily

Grifters got to grift.


9 posted on 02/04/2016 8:52:54 PM PST by stormer
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To: Cecily

Best wishes to his future congregants.


10 posted on 02/05/2016 2:40:03 AM PST by Tax-chick ("We have no values in common with Saudi Arabia."~ Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Cecily

"He's Baaaack!"

No surprise. Almost a certainty he would pop up somewhere.

...but who am I to judge the servant of another?

We shall see.

11 posted on 02/05/2016 5:33:33 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("I don't care if there's a billion of you. You're in a cult.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
but who am I to judge the servant of another?

Are you saying Mr. Driscoll is not a servant of Jesus Christ? If he is, and so are you, then your reference doesn't really make sense.

12 posted on 02/05/2016 9:20:58 AM PST by Tax-chick ("We have no values in common with Saudi Arabia."~ Daniel Greenfield)
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To: Tax-chick
It's been half an hour since your inquiry, and I expect the poster will reply eventually. But I took it innocently enough, that he's not going to presume to judge a servant of Jesus: that Jesus's job. We'll see.

That said, I agree with your post wishing his future congregants well. I'm concerned at the way his decision to proceed is portrayed: as his decision. One recent emphasis I've received from the Lord is not to go off half-cocked under my own steam, to mix metaphors, but rather to proceed not on my projects but instead on His. He says he is "hoping, trusting, praying, planning and also a little...worrying about planting a church here." How about "obeying?"

13 posted on 02/05/2016 10:03:44 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Tax-chick

Romans 14:4 (KJV) Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth . Yea, he shall be holden up : for God is able to make him stand .


14 posted on 02/05/2016 11:33:00 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Tax-chick
Refusing to judge doesn't really make any sense. Perhaps he has no other livelihood than making a living from religion. As certain of your own poets have said:

Almost aflame still you don't feel the heat
Takes all you got just to stay on the beat
You say it's a living, we all gotta eat


15 posted on 02/05/2016 11:44:01 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6; aMorePerfectUnion

Thanks. In that passage, Paul is writing about the dietary scruples of some Christian believers. However, I suppose the verse can be applied to the question of whether a person who has abused one position of authority (and may have some serious personal issues) should assume another position of the same kind.

I agree with Hebrews 11:6 that Mr. Driscoll seems ... how best to put it? ... personally driven in his actions, rather than clearly led by God. But anyway, if this gets off the ground, I hope his attendees find Christ and grow in faith, hope, and love, just as I would if they came to my church.


16 posted on 02/05/2016 11:51:21 AM PST by Tax-chick ("We have no values in common with Saudi Arabia."~ Daniel Greenfield)
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To: BlueNgold
Wasn’t this guy caught up in some scandal?

Can’t remember the details...

Reminds me of High Plains Drifter:
Callie Travers:
Just what do you consider going too far? Isn't forcible rape in broad daylight a misdemeanor in this town?

Mark Driscoll’s new book, Real Marriage, published January 2012, is highly significant for it confirms his position as a teacher of sexual licentiousness among God’s people. Consistent with his previous teaching, Driscoll writes, ‘Legally and biblically anal sex is permissible for a married couple as Scripture does not forbid it.’ Indeed, in Real Marriage, the Driscolls appear to delight in dealing with intimate and perverted sexual matters in a way that is contrary to Scripture. The apostle Paul warns that fornication, uncleanness and filthiness should not even once be named among God’s holy people (Ephesians 5.1-17).

17 posted on 02/05/2016 11:56:34 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
As certain of your own poets have said ...

LOL, good one. I'm going to try to use that.

18 posted on 02/05/2016 11:59:32 AM PST by Tax-chick ("We have no values in common with Saudi Arabia."~ Daniel Greenfield)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

In this case, it is trumped by 1 Tim 3


19 posted on 02/05/2016 12:02:03 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: af_vet_1981

“Refusing to judge doesn’t really make any sense.”

Judging for starting a church?

Not me. I wish he had placed himself under the authority of a mature group of Elders for at least three years first. That said, I don’t know any details beyond what I read about his exit from Mars Hill.


20 posted on 02/05/2016 12:23:12 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (As a representative of Earth, I officially welcome Global Warming to our planet)
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