Biblical Basics about Mother Mary -- A Homily for the Second Sunday of the Year

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-16-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[ealgeone]

When one resorts to playing the hatred card you’ve lost the argument.

[Elsie]

If you aren't guilty why scream?

If you aren't specific; why elude?

[Elsie]

Have you ever noticed that it is Marian dogmas and devotions that stir the strongest reactions in those who reject the Church?...”

DUH!

[MHGinTN]

Lol, you would ask such a thing from someone relating to chess and pigeons?

[Elsie]

Thank you for the idea of a new tagline, perhaps now you all might consider actually discussing the thread topic rather than making me the subject.

Like you did here?

[Elsie]

I see that this thread took off in debate.

As it was meant to do.

Otherwise it would have been a Catholic Caucus and you guys could have highfived one another for maybe 10-12 posts.

[Mom MD]

Life long confessional Lutheran here I have never been taught or heard any such thing.

[Elsie]

This posting of blather is a one way deal and Protestants spend their time defending the dignity of Mary as well as the only mediator between God and man, the Lord Christ Jesus...

At least there was ONE woman with 'dignity' in Jesus' lineage!

Four are mentioned by Matthew:

Matthew 1

 

1 This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,Isaac the father of Jacob,Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,
3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,Perez the father of Hezron,Hezron the father of Ram,
4 Ram the father of Amminadab,Amminadab the father of Nahshon,Nahshon the father of Salmon,
5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,Obed the father of Jesse,
6 and Jesse the father of King David.David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,
7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam,Rehoboam the father of Abijah,Abijah the father of Asa,
8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,Jehoram the father of Uzziah,
9 Uzziah the father of Jotham,Jotham the father of Ahaz,Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,Manasseh the father of Amon,Amon the father of Josiah,
11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.
12 After the exile to Babylon:
Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,
13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,Abihud the father of Eliakim,Eliakim the father of Azor,
14 Azor the father of Zadok,Zadok the father of Akim,Akim the father of Elihud,
15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,Eleazar the father of Matthan,Matthan the father of Jacob,
16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

 

 

   

 mother was Tamar: dresses up as prostitute - gets knocked up by her father-in-law    Genesis 38:24

 mother was Rahab: always mentioned as Rahab; the prostitute                                   Joshua 2:1, Joshua 6:17, Joshua 6:25, Hebrews 11:31, James 2:25

 mother was Ruth:  Gets herself dolled up and sneaks in to sleep with Boaz                     Ruth 3

 mother had been Uriah's wife: Poor Bathsheba does even get her name mentioned here.   2 Samuel 11:2-4

[NewCenturions]

“Mother of God”....that is enough to put her above the angels. And nobody loves her Son more than she does. So, yeah, I ask her to pray for me.

[Elsie]

I don’t think he even mentioned Mary.

You might have a future pope on your hands!

[Elsie]

Just because Monsignor Pope's interpretation doesn't agree with many protestant's interpretation? what the book Rome assembled plainly states!

[Elsie]

Explains the utter hatred one sees directed toward Our Lady.

Which can ONLY be explained by the utter audacity that Rome has had in making up these tales about her in the first place!

[Salvation]

Are you saying that the Wedding at Cana is not in you Bible?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

X

[metmom]

Astute observation.

[Iscool]

Just because Monsignor Pope’s interpretation doesn’t agree with many protestant’s interpretation?

It's not an interpretation...We can all read what's in there...And there's nothing in there that could remotely be construed to fit the fairy tale that your Mr. Pope came up with...

[metmom]

"Mother of God"....that is enough to put her above the angels. And nobody loves her Son more than she does.

Mother of God is not found in Scripture.

Nor is any of the other stuff. The only one above the angels is God. By making Mary God's mother, you are putting her above God.

Nobody loves her son more than she does? Got proof?

[metmom]

It keeps going to show that the only reason people *interpret* Scripture is because they want it to say or mean something that a plain reading of the text doesn’t say or mean.

Meanwhile, Christians read Scripture and take it at face value, realizing that God didn’t make it hard for us to understand what He said.

[Iscool]

It is interesting that when I suggested a reason for the Bible to refer to ‘the sons of Alpheus’ and names James and John as brothers of Jesus, my suggestion -NOT FOUND IN THE BIBLE- is rejected because it is not in the Bible yet many of the dogmas of catholiciism are not found in the Bible either! [Mary could have had a second husband and children by him if Joseph died while Mary was still of child bearing age.]

Certainly could have...And that would be more legitimate than any thing the Catholic religion came up with...She could have had 4 more husbands and THAT would be more believable than she had no other children because she had a herd of children, according to the words of God...

There is no good or acceptable reason for non Catholic Christians not to believe the inspired words of God...

[Iscool]

The Bible states otherwise.

Ya but Luther and Zwingli and Calvin said,,,,....

Hey, weren't they Catholics??? Obviously when they said that (if they did, there was no citation provided) they didn't believe the scriptures any more than their Catholic compatriots did...