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Papacy in Collapse: The Crisis of the Bergoglio Party (which will leave the Church devastated) Begun
Rorate Caeli ^ | November 5, 2015 | Antonio Socci

Posted on 11/06/2015 12:37:09 AM PST by BlessedBeGod

FAILURE

Today, unfortunately, we have to recognize that in three years Pope Bergoglio hasn't done what we expected him to do or what he said he was going to do. He attempted to regulate the curial and economic machine, but in reverse, with confusing results and at times was counterproductive.

Further, he has caused the Church to collapse into doctrinal confusion which is much, more serious than any financial scandal.

Is it the fault of obscure opponents? Nonsense. Only in dictatorships are the failures of the regime justified with presumed sabotages from its opponents. The Argentine Pope has said many times that he wanted chaos as he considered it creative: he should be pleased now...

The newspapers that are talking about a war between Pope Bergoglio and the Curia, forget to say that it was precisely the party of the Curia that "invented" and elected Pope Bergoglio. Today that Party finds itself in the same situation as the Democratic Party (P.D. [note: the Socialist Party in Italy]). Bitterly regretting its choice; because Pope Bergoglio is "unfit." Inadequate. This cannot be ignored.

The other day, the New Yorker reported that among those who elected him in March 2013, he wouldn't even get ten votes from them today...

The present Pope is a son of that Peronist political culture which brought Argentina to collapse i.e. a very wealthy country gone bankrupt. Pope Bergoglio himself has frankly acknowledged that in his younger days, his past function as head of the Argentine Jesuits was a disaster. A top man in the "Company" declared to an American journalist, that, at that time, "Bergoglio created an awful lot of problems. He has some remarkable gifts, but was surrounded by a court of very faithful pasdaran (guards) and a personality cult creates divisions." He added "it will be a catastrophe for the Church to have someone like him in the Apostolic See. It took us two decades to try and fix the chaos he created..."

THE MASS-MEDIA CIRCUS

The Italian mass-media lives in a bubble of papal worship, similar to an idolatrous obsession. They see Pope Bergoglio as the absolute Good and whoever dissents from this is depicted as an emissary of Evil or a dark conspirator.

...reading the newspapers, those who openly dissented from the Kasper-Bergoglio thesis, it seems, are deliberately being hit. But must the mass-media control Power closely or hunt down the dissidents?...

On the other hand, once the deadly mechanism of the mass-media circus is triggered as an instrument of power -- and Pope Bergoglio did this unscrupulously, for instance, by using his brotherly friend Scalfari to reveal what he truly thinks -- then what occurs is that you lose control of that same mass-media machine. Then, if there is some unpleasant news the word "conspiracy" is shouted, as happened in the case of Monsignor Charamsa's "coming out." Yet, what induced him to do this if not the Bergoglian ambiguities and choices on the subject of homosexuality? In fact, Charamsa hit out ruthlessly at the Curia, which he accused of "homophobia." He is also a strong supporter of Bergoglio.

The Bergoglian crisis -- even after the double defeat at the two Synods -- is evident...

Still -- as I said -- not everything is always controllable in the information business...

A TUMOUR

It happened twenty days ago with the "Quotidiano Nazionale" which had published the news of the Pope's supposed brain tumor...the "Giornalista Collettivo" choir immediately picked up the Vatican refrain of "a conspiracy against the Pope." In the end, after days of conspiracy hunting, we were still in the dark about the situation. Everyone accepted the denials and the thing was buried.

After all this, the director of the "Quotidiano Nazionale," Andrea Cangini, an honest and serious journalist, gave an interview to "Tempo."

Question: "Does the Holy Father really have a benign brain tumor? Eveyone is denying it, do you confirm it?"
Answer: "Certainly. What we wrote was verified. But I assure you we have no intention of backing civil wars in the Vatican."

Another question: "You confirmed you had documental proof. Of what type?"
Answer: "If I gave you more elements, I'd put my source in jeopardy. It is written proof."

In the face of such a declaration it was natural to expect an invitation from Father Lombardi to publish this "proof." Unfortunately the Vatican was careful in not challenging the "Quotidiano Nazionale." It's strange. Cangini is an esteemed professional and "QN" is an important daily newspaper, usually far from temerarious rows. In any normal country it would have been asked to show the documental proof about what it had reported. Instead -- nothing. Having left this story in suspension might be another reason for Pope Bergoglio's waning, and of the uproar inside the Curia and his "party." Yet one has the impression that the uproar has only just begun.


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It's a long article, so I cherry-picked the more interesting paragraphs.
1 posted on 11/06/2015 12:37:09 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: BlessedBeGod
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it [Jesus' return] will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction," 2 Thess. 2:3).

Apostasy means to fall away from the Truth, Way and Life. Therefore, an apostate is someone who has either once believed or had problems believing due to skepticism but now rejects the Truth of the Holy Trinity. Apostasy then is a rebellion against the Holy Trinity because it is a rebellion against His immutable (unchanging, inerrant) Truth.

Scripture tells us that there will be wholesale apostasy associated with the appearance of the Antichrist and subsequent return of Jesus. While many Christians today are looking for the arrival of Antichrist, very few are looking for "the apostasy" that must come first. The arrival of the Antichrist and then the return of Jesus will not occur until sufficient apostasy has happened in the world because the Antichrist, who is the ultimate of liars, cannot abide in a world where the truth of God's Word is taught. This is why the Bible says that the apostasy will come first and then the Antichrist will be revealed.

Therefore, Christians are to be watching and discerning the times and signs and be asking the meaning of the presence of a Gay Mafia, collapsing papacy, embrace of sundry heresies by much of the Christian Church (not just by the Catholic), and emptying out of churches throughout the West and America in the context of the larger question, "Is there an apostasy occurring within the Christian church over and across the entire denominational spectrum today?"

2 posted on 11/06/2015 1:01:34 AM PST by spirited irish
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To: BlessedBeGod
IF Satan was in collapse I would jump for joy. But Lucifer is not done yet. The destruction has only just begun.
3 posted on 11/06/2015 2:47:57 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: BlessedBeGod

The gates of hell will not prevail against the Holt Mother Church. Why not pray for the Church and its leaders rather than posting this bilge?!


4 posted on 11/06/2015 4:01:35 AM PST by CWW (Pray for God's Protection!)
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To: BlessedBeGod

It seems apparent to me that Francis had already decided on these issues and more when he and his communion assistants allowed the likes of Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi to receive the sacrament at the Papal inauguration mass.

I don’t believe that any of these people who administered it to them could not have known who they were. Or, if they truly did not know, that they are just plain ignorant and never should have been chosen for such an important function to begin with.


5 posted on 11/06/2015 4:07:04 AM PST by onedoug
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....”Why not pray for the Church and its leaders”.....

They were many many years ago until today.....the church has proven it isn’t interested in listening. Instead it continues to set it’s own agenda’s...politically and spiritually. The two are one and the same for the most part.


6 posted on 11/06/2015 4:11:43 AM PST by caww
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To: spirited irish; BlessedBeGod

“...Regarding the missing text of the Third Secret, Mr. Socci’s research led him to reasonably conclude that “the words of the Madonna preannounce an apocalyptic crisis of the faith in the Church starting from the top.”...”

http://keepingitcatholic.blogspot.com/2013/03/benedicts-resignation-due-to-third.html


“...The “Great Apostasy”

Father Gruner has widely publicized the work of several Fatima experts who believe they have deduced what the Third Secret contains: a warning that the Catholic Church will undergo a catastrophic loss of faith and discipline beginning around 1960 - the “great apostasy” predicted in Scripture as a harbinger of the end times.

As evidence for this view, these experts point to unprecedented change and upheaval in the Catholic Church since the Second Vatican Council was convened in 1960: the abandonment of all traditional forms of worship in Latin, the collapse of traditional orders of priests and nuns, the exodus of Catholics from the Church, the precipitous drop in Mass attendance among those remaining, the drastic decline in priestly and religious vocations, the innumerable sexual scandals involving priests and even bishops, and the widespread refusal of nominal Catholics in the pews to adhere any longer to Papal teaching on contraception, divorce, abortion or any other matter on which they “disagree” with the Pope.

Father Gruner, too, is convinced that the Third Secret warns of precisely these events, and that this would explain its suppression: “Obviously, no Vatican official would be eager to reveal a warning from Heaven which says that the great apostasy in the Catholic Church is going to happen on his watch.”...

http://www.fatima.org/news/newsviews/secret02.asp


7 posted on 11/06/2015 5:25:57 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: CWW
Why not pray for the Church and its leaders rather than posting this bilge?!

I already do. But just like everything else posted on FR that you agree with or not, it's important to know what's out there.

8 posted on 11/06/2015 8:46:02 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. -- Pope St. Pius X /// Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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To: CWW

Amen, I agree.

Look at what happened at Lepanto!


9 posted on 11/06/2015 8:48:33 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BlatherNaut; BlessedBeGod
"Off The Rails: Was Vatican II Hijacked?" James Hitchcock, http://www.crisismagazine.com/2004/off-the-rails-was-vatican-ii-hijacked-2 Though written for a Roman Catholic audience, James Hitchcock's powerful analytical piece contains much that parallels the crisis of faith and growth of apostasy within the whole denominational body of the Evangelical church. For instance, among Reformed Presbyterians, Lutherans and Baptists there exists growing recognition that the Evangelical strategy of countering secularism by accommodating the church to the secular culture (i.e., seeker sensitive, hymnody replaced by soft rock) just doesn’t work.

Similarly, by the logic of its' strategy, promoters of this tactic inevitably end up negating the Evangelical Churches right to remain faithful to its authentic identity which ends in "a moral obligation to repudiate as much of that identity as possible" (Hitchcock). The pursuit of this agenda eventually forces older saints out of the church in favor of younger, culturally-saturated, spiritually and morally immature members. These actions give birth to,

"a crude form of democracy—doctrine as determined by opinion polls. The liturgy (ceases) to be a divine action and (becomes) a communal celebration (a form of Christless Christianity) with every moral absolute treated as merely another wall needing to be breached" (and the demand) for “liberation” from all restraint on personal freedom." (Hitchcock)

As a result: " the theological frontier is nothing less than the stark question of whether there is indeed only one God and Jesus is His only-begotten Son." (ibid)

In agreement, Dr. R. Albert Mohler, president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, describes our age as marked by so much spiritual and theological confusion that the God of the Bible has largely disappeared from view and been replaced by,

"...less imposing deities that are more amenable to the modern mind." (The Disappearance of God, Mohler, p. xiii)

We are witnessing the secularization, paganization and evaporation of orthodox Biblical theism to which must be added rebellion against every vestige of authority, an inversion of history caused by evolutionary thinking, the privatization of truth and,

".....the fact that millions of Americans claim a divine right to their own spiritual cocoon and belief system." Americans, "now lay claim to their 'own personal Jesus.' This personal vision of Jesus Christ may well bear little or no resemblance to Jesus as He is revealed in the Bible." (xiii)

10 posted on 11/06/2015 10:50:44 AM PST by spirited irish
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