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Towards a new prayer book
Episcopal Cafe ^ | 10-06-2015 | Rosalind Hughes

Posted on 10/07/2015 6:49:50 PM PDT by NRx

The Church Divinity School of the Pacific offers a forum on “Imagining a new prayer book” as part of its Alumni Convocation Symposium, October 8, from 3-5 p.m., local time.

The Rev. Dr. Ruth Meyers, presenter, is the current dean of academic affairs, and a long-time teacher of liturgy and liturgics. She served on the Standing Commission for Liturgy and Music from 2008 – 2015, and as chair from 2009 – 2015.

The seminary website describes the event:

 The 2015 General Convention called for a plan for revision of the 1979 Book of Common Prayer that will “utilize the riches of our Church’s liturgical, cultural, racial, generational, linguistic, gender and ethnic diversity in order to share common worship.” Join us to explore the possibilities and challenges for Prayer Book revision. What should change? What should be added? What should we keep? We’ll consider how a new prayer book can enable the Episcopal Church to gather and form faithful disciples in the 21st century, and how our common worship can express and shape our participation in the mission of God.

This presentation will be livestreamed: https://livestream.com/ChurchDivinitySchoolofthePacific/AlumniConvocationForum2015

What do you imagine, or dream of, in a new prayer book?


TOPICS: Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: episcopal
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Coming from a religious tradition whose motto could be ‘if it aint broke don’t fix it” and whose liturgy and forms of worship haven’t changed dramatically in 1500 years, I can only say that liturgical tinkering almost never ends well. Just ask the Catholics.

When someone says ‘let’s rewrite the mass or the prayer book or whatever’ it should be viewed as a giant neon sign flashing a one word message…

DANGER

DANGER

DANGER

On the other hand, we are talking about the Episcopalians here. I think we can safely that they have long since passed the point of no return.

1 posted on 10/07/2015 6:49:50 PM PDT by NRx
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To: NRx

Lemme take a wild guess and say that elements of the Koran are going to be praised and suggested for use.


2 posted on 10/07/2015 7:00:08 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: NRx; All

It is said that the KJV of the Bible, Shakespeare, and the Book of Common Prayer were the foundational texts for formation of the uniquely bibliocentric approach the English speaking world developed. Considering the distressful 1979 Prayer Book I can only shudder at what is coming. In the future will historians look back and describe this new document as one of the milestones on the road to the deconstruction of the Anglo-American and possible the Western sense of identity?


3 posted on 10/07/2015 7:14:28 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Talisker

They already had Muslims in the National Cathedral so it wouldn’t be surprising.


4 posted on 10/07/2015 7:15:58 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: NRx

How about going back 100 or 200 years?


5 posted on 10/07/2015 7:22:44 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: NRx

More apostasy, less God.


6 posted on 10/07/2015 7:33:11 PM PDT by twister881
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To: robowombat
I grew up a devout (for a wild kid) Episcopalian. Just as the beauty of the vestments and paraments "formed" my appreciation for textiles, the KJV and the 1928 Book of Common Prayer greatly affected by appreciation of beauty of expression.

This is not simply a matter of "taste." God is not only beautiful, He is Beauty itself.

we may not be perfectly clear about the root meaning of "Worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness," but the thought is almost self-validating.

But the problem in TEC is deeper. They don't believe in God or the Water and the Blood. They're not clear that there is a God for IHS to be the Son of.

Unless God moves in a mighty way, they are lost.

7 posted on 10/07/2015 7:51:52 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: NRx

They’ll have to take my 1928 BCP from my cold dead hands.


8 posted on 10/07/2015 7:56:21 PM PDT by j.frank.dobie (2016!)
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To: Mad Dawg

I’ve been an Episcopalian for 44 years. I loved my church for 34. I liked it for another 7 or 8. Now, I just don’t feel the same.

All of us aren’t liberal but the church is turning away from those who are.


9 posted on 10/07/2015 8:00:41 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: altura

“that will “utilize the riches of our Church’s liturgical, cultural, racial, generational, linguistic, gender and ethnic diversity in order to share common worship”

IOW, God is a “she” (or maybe a transvestite): Jesus is not the “Son”; and there is no “Father” in heaven.

Aside from that, though, the prayer book will remain the same... (sarc/off)


10 posted on 10/07/2015 8:03:15 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: darkangel82

You have a new prayer book—its called the Koran.


11 posted on 10/07/2015 8:36:14 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: NRx

Cranmer is the greatest stylist the English language ever produced. I’d say, Cranmer produced the English language. Go back to the 1928 BCP.


12 posted on 10/07/2015 8:55:45 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: CondorFlight
Creator, Redeemer, and Sanctifier
13 posted on 10/07/2015 9:03:46 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: j.frank.dobie
Ibought my present copy of the Book of Common Prayer at a small bookstall in Bath Abbey on a visit to England in 2007. It was exactly the same as the first copy I had, given to me by my school headmaster upon my graduation in 1962.

By the grace of God, it will be the one used at my funeral, whensoever He shall choose to call me from this world.

14 posted on 10/07/2015 10:30:12 PM PDT by John Locke
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To: NRx
What do you imagine, or dream of, in a new prayer book?

http://www.ordinariate.org.uk/news/OrdinariateNews.php?New-Liturgical-Book-for-the-Personal-Ordinariates-195

15 posted on 10/08/2015 2:28:50 AM PDT by Claud
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To: NRx

http://stjohntheforerunnerblog.blogspot.ca/2015/10/why-orthodox-christianity-should-not.html

Very Russian, but on point given the turmoil we are seeing among the heterodox.


16 posted on 10/08/2015 3:54:35 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: NRx
I can only say that liturgical tinkering almost never ends well. Just ask the Catholics.

I just keep reminding myself that "A liturgist is an affliction sent by God so that in times of no overt persecution, a Catholic need not be denied the privilege of suffering for the Faith." ;-)

17 posted on 10/08/2015 5:01:56 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Kolokotronis

That’s an excellent reflection. It may warrant its own thread.


18 posted on 10/08/2015 10:36:18 AM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: Mad Dawg; All

‘Unless God moves in a mighty way, they are lost.’

This will be the epitaph of what was once called Western Civilization.


19 posted on 10/08/2015 6:41:51 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

‘Unless God moves in a mighty way, they are lost.’

This will be the epitaph of what was once called Western Civilization.


I have often thought about what common people thought when the OT prophet said they would be captured and carried away. That is where we are now and what are we thinking.................


20 posted on 10/08/2015 6:46:26 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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