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Ireland's Top Archbishop Holds Historic Talks with Catholic Gay Group
Irish Central ^ | 7/24/15 | Jane Walsh

Posted on 07/27/2015 6:14:12 AM PDT by marshmallow

Pro-gay faith groups have met Dr Eamon Martin, the Catholic Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of All Ireland.

The meeting with the Archbishop was requested by Faith in Marriage Equality (FiME) during the recent referendum campaign on same sex marriage. The meeting took place at the Archbishop's residence in Armagh, on Wednesday, July 22.

Dr Richard O'Leary of Faith in Marriage Equality said “We believe it is a positive step to open dialogue with the Catholic Church as a contribution to the 'reality check' signalled by the Church after the vote for civil marriage equality.”

He was referring to the “reality check” Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin recommended to the Catholic Church following the success of the Yes campaign in the marriage equality referendum on May 22.

O’Leary continued “We were positively received by Archbishop Martin who said he was committed to continuing dialogue and that he was particularly concerned about the pastoral care of gay persons”.

Jim O'Crowley, a gay Catholic, shared with Archbishop Martin the experiences and views of gay Catholics and their families.

The delegation had sent in advance to the Archbishop, a copy of “To have and to Hold”: stories and reflections of LGBT people their families and friends” (edited by Patricia Devlin and Brian Glennon). Archbishop Martin said that he found it helpful to read this book and also to listen to accounts by gay Catholics.

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It seems clear that the objective of the "Catholic Gay Group" is not the wider spread and acceptance of Catholic moral teaching on homosexuality but rather the opposite. I doubt very much whether Martin made clear the danger in this position during the "dialogue".
1 posted on 07/27/2015 6:14:12 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Satan has the ball and he’s on the 10 yard line.


2 posted on 07/27/2015 6:19:03 AM PDT by AU72
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To: marshmallow

Heck, Martin will probably do the first “gay wedding.” He was almost removed by BXVI after The scandals in Ireland emerged (some under his watch). But I guess his friends in the gay mafia at the Vatican were stronger than poor BXVI and saved his hide.


3 posted on 07/27/2015 6:29:18 AM PDT by livius
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Dont be so quick to lose faith. God is in control of His Church. He is merely seeking an encounter with these people.


4 posted on 07/27/2015 6:37:19 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: marshmallow

The Catholic Gay Group? That’s sort of like the Jewish Pig Farmers Group, n’est pas?


5 posted on 07/27/2015 6:39:52 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Any of these Clergymen in discussions with Homosexual Groups, inviting discussion on Homosexual Marriage should leave the Catholic Church. The Church is losing people by the thousands.


6 posted on 07/27/2015 6:47:46 AM PDT by chatham
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Any of these Clergymen in discussions with Homosexual Groups, inviting discussion on Homosexual Marriage should leave the Catholic Church. The Church is losing people by the thousands.


7 posted on 07/27/2015 6:48:04 AM PDT by chatham
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To: marshmallow

Was the vote to change Catholic teaching?


8 posted on 07/27/2015 8:49:38 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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Heck, Martin will probably do the first “gay wedding.”

Been a long time since a high level excommunication.

9 posted on 07/27/2015 8:54:30 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (CA the sanctuary state for stupid.)
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No. There has never been a faith group to accept ‘gay marriage’ without first accepting women clergy/pastors, to my understanding. Have to think that would happen first, and in the Catholic case a few other things would probably have to be accepted before ‘priestesses’ would ever be.

Freegards


10 posted on 07/27/2015 8:56:12 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: marshmallow

What is there to talk about?


11 posted on 07/28/2015 7:17:02 AM PDT by onedoug
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