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Pope Francis and homosexuality: confusing signs
Life Site News ^ | July 13, 2015 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 07/15/2015 6:16:20 AM PDT by ebb tide

If “actions speak louder than words,” as the saying goes, the message of Pope Francis on homosexuality is increasingly confusing. On the one hand, he has reiterated the Church’s teaching that marriage is reserved for one man and one woman, and has even repeatedly condemned gender ideology, the intellectual underpinning of the LGBT movement. However both in his deeds - most notably his choice of advisors and prelates to elevate to higher positions - and omissions he has left an impression in many minds that seems very different from the Church’s tradition.

It is not only Catholic conservatives who have observed these mixed signals. In the wake of the demotion of prominent conservative Vatican cardinals like Raymond Burke and Mauro Piacenza, Vatican watchers both on the left and the right have pointed out the seeming favoritism of Pope Francis for liberal prelates. Italy’s conservative Vaticanist Marco Tossati dramatically described it as “open season on conservatives.” John Allen, one of the top Vatican watchers, although he falls on the left side of the spectrum of Catholic thought, has himself highlighted Pope Francis’ decisions regarding the demotion of conservative bishops and promotion of those on the left.

Allen has said Francis is being seen as engaging in an “ideological purge” of conservatives. “Many on the Catholic right can’t help but suspect that the recent preponderance of conservatives who’ve found themselves under the gun isn’t an accident,” Allen added. “Some perceive a through-the-looking-glass situation, in which upholding Catholic tradition is now perceived as a greater offense than rejecting it.”

This article is presented with love and respect for the Holy Father, in answer to his call for open dialogue and in light of his expressed thankfulness to a conservative Catholic writer who had voiced public concerns; concerns which the Pope said were “important” for him to receive.

Silence and ambiguity

Pope Francis has chosen to remain silent at key intervals, most especially in the aftermath of some of the most significant shifts in the globe regarding homosexuality – the same-sex “marriage” decisions of both Ireland and the United States.

Although journalists asked for comment, an eerie silence from Rome met last month’s judicial imposition of homosexual ‘marriage’ on the United States. Similarly, after traditionally Catholic Ireland voted to support same-sex “marriage” in their referendum, comment from the pope himself was absent. Only after a few days did a comment appear from the Vatican Secretary of State calling the decision a “defeat for humanity.”

These silences come two years after the pope made his “who am I to judge” comment, which, while misconstrued in most media presentations and widely abused by advocates of same-sex “marriage,” has never been revisited by the Holy Father to clarify his intent - a clarification that could certainly put a swift end to the ubiquitous misuse of his words. Beyond this, the silence that met the first Synod on the Family’s interim document -- which, although approved by the Pope for release, presented a view on homosexuality at odds with Church teaching -- remains to this day. This despite the public pleading of Cardinal Raymond Burke for a clarification on that and related matters that could come only from the pope.

Equally concerning as this silence, however, have been the appointments to high office and stature in the Church of men with a position on homosexuality at variance with the established teaching of the Church.

The Church teaches that homosexual sex acts are gravely depraved. Regarding both homosexual “marriage” and even civil unions, it clearly states that “under no circumstances can they be approved.” This is the “love the sinner, hate the sin” approach. The Church forbids any type of hatred or aggression towards persons with same-sex attraction and has been the leader in tending to those suffering from AIDS and other effects of harmful same-sex sexual behaviour. The Church teaches that the homosexual orientation itself is not a sin, but nonetheless is objectively disordered because it is oriented towards sinful behaviour. The teaching stresses that all unjust discrimination against men and women with same-sex attraction should be avoided, but acknowledges there is just discrimination in that regard. For example, it forbids men with deep-seated homosexual orientation from becoming priests.

The elevations

Bishop Heiner Koch: Bishop Koch was appointed June 8, 2015 by Pope Francis as the new Archbishop of Berlin, and selected as one of the three delegates of the German Bishops' Conference to participate in the upcoming October 2015 Synod of Bishops on the Family. Koch has said, “Any bond that strengthens and holds people is in my eyes good; that applies also to same-sex relationships.” In another public interview he said: “To present homosexuality as sin is wounding. … I know homosexual pairs that live values such as reliability and responsibility in an exemplary way.”

Cardinal Godfried Danneels: The retired former archbishop of Brussels was a special appointment by Pope Francis to the 2014 Synod of Bishops. In addition to wearing rainbow liturgical vestments and being caught on tape concealing sexual abuse, Danneels said in 2013 of the passage of gay “marriage”: “I think it’s a positive development that states are free to open up civil marriage for gays if they want.”

Cardinal Walter Kasper: A few days into his pontificate Pope Francis praised one of Cardinal Kasper’s books, and then selected the cardinal to deliver the controversial keynote address to the consistory of cardinals advocating his proposal to allow divorced and civilly remarried Catholics to receive communion in some circumstances. This proposal led to the high-profile debate at the first Synod of Bishops on the Family. Cardinal Kasper has again been selected as a personal appointee of the pope to the second Synod and regularly meets with Pope Francis. Kasper defended the vote of the Irish in favor of homosexual “marriages,” saying: “A democratic state has the duty to respect the will of the people; and it seems clear that, if the majority of the people wants such homosexual unions, the state has a duty to recognize such rights.”

Archbishop Bruno Forte: The archbishop of Chieti-Vasto was appointed Special Secretary to the 2014 Synod by Pope Francis. He is the Italian theologian who was credited with drafting the controversial homosexuality section of the infamous midterm report of the Synod which spoke of “accepting and valuing [homosexuals’] sexual orientation.” When questioned about the language, Forte said homosexual unions have "rights that should be protected," calling it an "issue of civilization and respect of those people."

Father Timothy Radcliffe: In May, Pope Francis appointed the former Master of the Dominican Order as a consultor for the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace despite his well-known support for homosexuality. Writing on homosexuality in 2013, he said: “We must ask what it means, and how far it is Eucharistic. Certainly it can be generous, vulnerable, tender, mutual and non-violent. So in many ways, I would think that it can be expressive of Christ’s self-gift.” In a 2006 lecture he advocated “accompanying” homosexuals, which he defined as “watching 'Brokeback Mountain,' reading gay novels, living with our gay friends and listening with them as they listen to the Lord."

Bishop Johan Bonny: The bishop of Antwerp in Belgium has just been named as one of the delegates to the 2015 Synod of Bishops on the Family despite open dissent on homosexual unions. While being named as a delegate to the synod may not in itself constitute a major promotion, what is unique about Bonny is the extremity and clarity of his dissent. “Inside the Church, we must look for a formal recognition of the relational dimension that is also present in many homosexual, lesbian and bisexual couples,” he said in a December 2014 interview. “In the same way that in society there exists a diversity of legal frameworks for partners, there must be a diversity of forms of recognition in the Church.”

With few exceptions the prelates above were made bishops by previous popes but were given new prominence by Pope Francis despite their recent very public statements in opposition to Church teaching.

Different treatment for liberal and conservative bishops

But beyond these elevations is the pope’s increasingly apparent disparity in how he treats orthodox and heterodox bishops when facing controversy or allegations of a failure of office.

U.S. Bishop Robert Finn and Archbishop John Nienstedt, Paraguayan Bishop Rogelio Ricardo Livieres Plano and German Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst are all bishops who were outspokenly supportive of the natural family and were all removed from office by Pope Francis. The first three were removed from their posts for not reporting abusive priests within their dioceses, and the German was the so-called ‘Bishop of Bling” removed for perceived overspending.

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One can entirely agree with the disciplinary actions taken against these bishops, while still taking note of the puzzling concurrent elevation of liberal prelates with records much more sullied than the conservative ones. For instance, Bishop Battista Ricca, a former Vatican diplomat, was well known for homosexual conduct during his term at the nunciature in Uruguay, but the pope nevertheless appointed him to head the Vatican Bank and defended his decision.

Perhaps the most egregious case is that of Cardinal Danneels who, as noted above, is a proponent of Church recognition for homosexuality. The evidence that Cardinal Danneels engaged in a cover-up of sex abuse is overwhelming, clear and well known, yet he was brought out of relative obscurity by the personal intervention of Pope Francis during the Synod:

Immediately following his retirement in 2010, Danneels, who has publicly supported same-sex civil unions, was revealed to have actively worked to hide the activities of the now-notorious homosexual abuser, his friend and protégé Roger Vangheluwe, the former bishop of Bruges. Danneels was caught in a recording telling Vangheluwe’s victim, his nephew, “The bishop will resign next year, so actually it would be better for you to wait.”

The cardinal is heard in the recording warning the victim against trying to blackmail the church and urged him not to drag Vangheluwe’s name “through the mud.” Danneels added that the victim should admit his own guilt and ask forgiveness.

Meanwhile while Bishop Tebartz-van Elst, the leading German bishop defending the traditional family, was ousted over charges of overspending, Cardinal Reinhard Marx, one of Pope Francis’ Council of Nine advisors, spends more. But Cardinal Marx takes a weaker stance on homosexuality. Tebartz-van Elst headed the German bishops’ marriage and family commission and was excoriated in the German mainstream media after he disciplined one of his priests who had conducted a “blessing” of two homosexual men. In 2007, Tebartz-van Elst issued a statement saying that all Catholics “have a duty to protest the legal recognition of homosexual partnerships.”

The perception

If conservative Catholics and prelates have had one common request for Pope Francis during his pontificate, it has been for “clarity” - a cry most publicly and famously issued by Cardinal Burke. To quote the cardinal: “I’m not the pope, and I’m not in the business of telling him what to do – but in my judgment this [the Church’s teaching on sexuality] needs to be clarified, and there’s only one person who can clarify it at this point.”

As John Allen wrote in the piece quoted above, should Pope Francis be aiming to “hobble the traditionalist constituency,” and “using every chance to accomplish it,” then he “doesn’t owe anyone an explanation, because his moves would be having precisely the intended effect.” However, he added, if “the pontiff’s motives aren’t ideological,” then “Francis might need to find an occasion to explain in his own voice why he’s going after the people and groups that find themselves in his sights.”

Allen concluded ominously, “Otherwise, the risk is that a good chunk of the Church may conclude that if the pope sees them as the enemy, there’s no good reason they shouldn’t see him the same way.”


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Francis: Too worried about a climate hoax to worry himself with two nations legalizing homo marriage.
1 posted on 07/15/2015 6:16:20 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
For example, it forbids men with deep-seated homosexual orientation from becoming priests.

That's hilarious!

2 posted on 07/15/2015 6:23:37 AM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: ebb tide
I am heartbroken for Catholics who take their religion seriously. This Pope is a travesty.
3 posted on 07/15/2015 6:25:36 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: ebb tide

Bookmark


4 posted on 07/15/2015 6:30:26 AM PDT by Argus
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To: ebb tide
If conservative Catholics and prelates have had one common request for Pope Francis during his pontificate, it has been for “clarity” - a cry most publicly and famously issued by Cardinal Burke. To quote the cardinal: “I’m not the pope, and I’m not in the business of telling him what to do – but in my judgment this [the Church’s teaching on sexuality] needs to be clarified, and there’s only one person who can clarify it at this point.”

Clarity? I think the pope's position on homosexuality is pretty damned clear.

5 posted on 07/15/2015 6:34:35 AM PDT by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: ebb tide

“upholding Catholic tradition is now perceived as a greater offense than rejecting it.”

This is the atmosphere among the hierarchy today. They are infiltrated by evil. They are promoting promoting evil.

The attacks on free enterprise and free societies are part of it. The praise of Communism and totalitarianism is part of it. The promotion of the fraudulent climate change agenda is part of it. The promotion of homosexuality is part of it.

This is a difficult time for sincere, faithful Catholics.


6 posted on 07/15/2015 6:45:30 AM PDT by detective
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To: ebb tide

So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand...


7 posted on 07/15/2015 6:52:33 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: ebb tide

Catholics are having the same problem as we conservative Evangelicals. No respect for Orthodoxy or the inerrancy of the Word of God. Joel Osteen and Pope Francis are in the same category in my book.


8 posted on 07/15/2015 7:00:11 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: ebb tide

I think that there are a whole lot of gay men in leadership roles in the Catholic church, and that Catholic Christians are going to need support and cover from fellow Christians because the day is coming when they surely aren’t going to get it from Rome. They don’t need to take fire from both within and without.

I think we can also learn a lot from the Catholics at this very crucial juncture on how to navigate in a litigious society. There is stuff that hasn’t worked out for them, but there is an awful lot that has.


9 posted on 07/15/2015 7:43:36 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: originalbuckeye

What’s worse is all of the behind-the-curtains cloak and dagger. He is not even honest enough to stand before a microphone and say “I am changing Church doctrine.” He’s trying to do it on the sly.


10 posted on 07/15/2015 7:49:18 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: originalbuckeye

What about Americans who take their country and its Constitution seriously? Look who’s at the helm in our country. I find him no different ideologically than the man at the helm of the Vatican. The Vatican is just as capable of making terrible mistakes as the American voter.


11 posted on 07/15/2015 7:52:30 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Agree. And the Left so embraces this Pope when he spouts their politics. I wish both Obama and the Pope would go away.


12 posted on 07/15/2015 7:57:46 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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BTW. I am a Catholic. And yes I am appalled with our Marxist Pope much the same way as an American I am appalled with our Marxist POTUS.


13 posted on 07/15/2015 7:59:37 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: ebb tide
Is it possible that those who picked this Pope wanted these results and are quite happy with his work so far?

None of this is really a surprise if you're one of those who pays attention to the unusual and were a fan of the old Art Bell show.

Admittedly, such programs are what they are, but Art frequently interviewed a former Jesuit, the late Fr. Malachi Martin, who put a lot of effort into warning the world about the shenanigans going on in that windswept house.

These days the world is learning what Martin knew and why he tried so hard to warn us.

Too late now, but a nice try...

Lightning bolt hit Vatican not once but TWICE hours after Pope's shock resignation


14 posted on 07/15/2015 7:59:47 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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Malachi Martin -- Satan Enthroned in Vatican?
February 27, 2010

Excerpt:

Martin had first made reference to a diabolic rite held in Rome in his 1990 non-fiction best-seller about geopolitics and the Vatican, The Keys of This Blood, p 632 where he wrote:
"Most frighteningly for [Pope] John Paul [II], he had come up against the irremovable presence of a malign strength in his own Vatican and in certain bishops' chancelleries. It was what knowledgeable Churchmen called the 'superforce.' Rumors, always difficult to verify, tied its installation to the beginning of Pope Paul VI's reign in 1963. Indeed Paul had alluded somberly to 'the smoke of Satan, which has entered the Sanctuary'... an oblique reference to an enthronement ceremony by Satanists in the Vatican.

Besides, the incidence of Satanic pedophilia --rites and practices-- was already documented among certain bishops and priests as widely dispersed as Turin, in Italy, and South Carolina, in the United States. The cultic acts of satanic pedophilia are considered by professionals to be the culmination of the Fallen Archangel's rites."


15 posted on 07/15/2015 8:19:20 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: GBA
From November 04, 2011:

Vatican Suggests One All-Powerful Bank Run by One All-Powerful Global Entity

16 posted on 07/15/2015 8:27:28 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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The Bayside apparitions have been given no credibility, and the Maria Divine Mercy apparitions are a HUGE hoax. She was just outed recently. But no doubt, we are in serious trouble.

The apparitions of Akita have been given the thumbs up, and then there's Fatima too.

PRAY . FAST . ADORE ..
17 posted on 07/15/2015 11:13:36 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Tell your troubles to Jesus," my wisecracking father used to say, and now I do.......at adoration.)
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To: ebb tide
Cardinal Godfried Danneels

To quote W.C. Fields, "Godfrey Daniels!"

18 posted on 07/15/2015 11:17:26 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: mlizzy
That's one of the great things about posting here at FR. I didn't know that about Bayside or Maria Divine Mercy. Never even heard of them before today. Thank you for filling me in.

I was looking for something on Fr. Malachi Martin to post. That link was among the first that popped up that had want I wanted, but also included things I'd never heard about.

Now I won't take either of them seriously, but I do take seriously the things the other Popes have said, especially Pope John Paul II, and now everything I've read or heard Fr. Martin say, too.

But I also never took "Vatican II" seriously either. Wasn't anything to me growing up, so I didn't care.

But now, given the things I've read, including from Fr. Martin, and the way the world's been changing since then, yep, I think you're right about our being in serious trouble. (Ignorance is bliss?)

I don't know if Garabandal has passed Vatican muster yet, but I've read that, according to the Source of both, Garabandal is "the sequel to Fatima".

I don't really understand what that means, but it sure pegs my "Ominous" meter. I think it bent the needle.

Just a hunch, but maybe they should have followed orders the first time.

19 posted on 07/15/2015 12:57:05 PM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: originalbuckeye

Likewise.


20 posted on 07/15/2015 12:58:52 PM PDT by onedoug
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