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To: MHGinTN; Petrosius; Salvation; Chicory; Campion; Lil Flower
I must respectfully disagree with my dear Petrosius here.

We Catholics know about the “Good Thief,” right? He was saved without Bible, without Baptism, and without an explicit declaration that he was accepting Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior. He just said “Lord remember me when you come into your kingdom.” We hardly know what he “believed” by that, but he was saved by grace.

We know about the babies killed in Bethlehem because of Herod’s “odium Christi”? Right? They had no baptism, no Bible, and had not even attained the age of reason, but they are considered saints in heaven (”the Holy Innocents.”)

We will respectfully bury stillborns and even miscarried babies in a Catholic Funeral which simply commits them to the mercy of God.

But the point is that God saves. Jesus: it’s His name!

181 posted on 07/02/2015 11:16:37 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Christ has saved me; Christ is saving me; by His mercy I pray He will save me." att. to Joan of Arc)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Amen. His name as One is I AM. Is there anything the list needs to be completed?


182 posted on 07/02/2015 11:18:39 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Thief on the Cross is a special case to most who read the scriptures, so lets not use a possible exception to prove the rule, okay?


187 posted on 07/02/2015 11:33:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We Catholics know about the “Good Thief,” right? He was saved without Bible, without Baptism, and without an explicit declaration that he was accepting Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior. He just said “Lord remember me when you come into your kingdom.” We hardly know what he “believed” by that, but he was saved by grace.

Nope...We know exactly what he believed...

“Lord remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

Rom_10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

193 posted on 07/02/2015 12:10:18 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mrs. Don-o; MHGinTN; Iscool
We Catholics know about the “Good Thief,” right? He was saved without Bible, without Baptism, and without an explicit declaration that he was accepting Jesus as his personal Lord and Savior. He just said “Lord remember me when you come into your kingdom.” We hardly know what he “believed” by that, but he was saved by grace.

The "good Thief" had the same access to the OT scriptures that the apostles had..

The OT saints were saved by believing the promise of the scripture and looking forward to the cross..

Remember that the Old Testament was in effect until Christ died on the cross... so the thief was saved on the promise just like Moses , David and the other OT saints

220 posted on 07/02/2015 1:01:57 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>>We know about the babies killed in Bethlehem because of Herod’s “odium Christi”? Right? They had no baptism, no Bible, and had not even attained the age of reason, but they are considered saints in heaven (”the Holy Innocents.”)<<

I'm sure you have support from scripture for that?

373 posted on 07/03/2015 9:21:11 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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