Posted on 06/29/2015 11:23:16 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Of the 59 beads on the Rosary, why are there 53 to Mary and only 6 to Our Father? Is praying to Mary encouraged by the RCC?
If that was what the RCC believes, why have they added so much to the requirements for salvation? You can believe “the whole Christ is truly, really, and substantially contained” [Catechism paragraph 1374] in the wafer the magic priesthood holds up, but that was seen before hand by Jesus and He warned, 23 “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe him. [Matthew 24:23] The magic RCC priest holds up the wafer and says ‘Behold, The Body of Christ’ and to their condemnation the faithful say ‘Amen’ then consume the wafer believing they are ingesting the Life of God to aid in their salvation. Is that what you signed on for?
My o my.
Another anti-Catholic cherry picking post.
Well, He opened MY eyes, and a few others around here too. Maranatha.
:-)
The RCC tree is ripe with heresies to pick from. Would you like some more?
This sounds an awful lot like rationalization to be rude. 15 years ago the WWJD apparel was popular. Do you think He would condone these actions?
I hope that you are not going to quote the money changers at the temple to me as justification for you actions.
Naw, I’m just doin’ what I’m told to do, share the True Gospel with those who are perishing. If it bothers you, perhaps you need to hear the Real Gospel, not the look-alikes from Mormons and Catholics. Or maybe you just need to walk on down the road and have a cold one under a shady tree until God knocks on your door. Hey, that sounds inviting, havin’ a cold one under a shade tree! ... I wonder if there’ll be cold beer in Heaven?
Choose wisely.
Choose wisely indeed. I did. I got out of a works based religion, which will remain unnamed, but I got out. Praise God for that.
It might be unwise t someone making this assumption to call another contender "foolish."
In fact, in the beginning, there was no "catholic" church. There were only churches, each one autonomous and loyal to Christ as its Head, with congregationally elected/appointed elders and deacons. There were no "priests" because the Jewish system of sacrifices was done away with by the single, never-to-repeated Cross atonement in the punished body and shed blood of the Lamb. According to Peter, every regenerated believer-disciple was a priest unto God.
Ignatius did mention the word "catholic," but for him it was just an idea, not a physical visible overarching complement of supernumerary overseers constituting a para-church polity by which the local churches were governed from without, in a fascist sort of way, not being local, egalitarian, and democratic. There was no such thing as a "denomination," like Methodism or Episcopalian, or Romanism.
And truly, if there had been a superimposed catholic principle, there would have been no purpose or need for multi-church councils to obtain consensus throughout the Christian world, would there, eh?
Furthermore, until Augustine formulated a Platonic concept to explain away the presence of impurity in the churches that involved an invisible unified "pure" church in this world, there was no implementation of the Platonic oversoul principle through the non-christian term "catholic" that described that Augustine invention.
The invisible Church of Christ exists since His ascension only in Heaven, and is the Kingdom of The God. It is not of this world. The writer of Hebrews described it as:
"But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel" (Heb 12:22-24 AV).
The visible churches belong to the Kingdom of Heaven, full of wheat and tares, good fish and bad fish, and other gross impurities, mostly fomenting doctrinal divisions, and the RCC denomination is only one of them, thus making the whole sphere of earthly Christianity distinctively catholic.
There's a lot more, but this is enough for mow.
How about playing a different tune? (I suppose it's hard when one's instrument has only one string.)
"The visible churches belong to the Kingdom of Heaven, full of wheat and tares, good fish and bad fish, and other gross impurities, mostly fomenting doctrinal divisions, and the RCC denomination is only one of them, thus making the whole sphere of earthly Christianity distinctively not catholic.
“There are some who question the Pauline authorship of Hebrews. How do we know that it is Scripture?”
DINE on it! THEN you’ll “know”! “Taste and see that the Lord is good.”
Laudatio Si: Bombastic claptrap.
Hebrews: Deep beauty and Truth, that elevate THE Truth, Jesus.
Affirmative sir. I wonder if this means we are even closer to the end times than I thought?
Sounds like you don’t have much use for Peter — a Saint among all Christians, not just the RCC.
On the other hand, Jesus seemed to have liked Peter very much, asked him to start his (Jesus’) church if I’m not mistaken.
I belong to that church started by Peter at the call of Jesus.
And that was it for 1,500 years after his death.
I think it’s knowing that truth is what is bothering you. Otherwise, why would you care to even worry yourself about the RCC? I certainly don’t concern myself with your church or denomination.
Good luck on your journey.
I have seen Billy Graham and Mother Teresa speak, neither of them was rude.
Do you think Jesus would condone being rude when sharing the gospel?
WHY did the ECF's close the canon so soon?
They had a chance to claim all their added traditions were SCRIPTURE but they BLEW it!
...snippet.
And that is what the Catholic Church believes.
**There is ONLY one Way to Jesus Christ, His mom: The Virgin Mary, The Blessed Virgin Mary, The Blessed Mother, Mother of God, Immaculate Mary, Saint Mary, Holy Mary, Holy Virgin, Our Lady, The Madonna, Notre-Dame, Queen of Heaven, Our Lady of the Snows
And that is what the Catholic Church TEACHES.
You Catholics have my permission to post a comprehensive collection of misrepresentations about Protestant doctrine (in the spirit of ecumentalism)so that it will weary US to think of correcting all of your mistakes.
By saying, "This is my body...
hope that you are not going to quote the money changers at the temple to me as justification for you actions.
Why; I'd never think of it!!
Matthew 15:16
"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.
Matthew 231. Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
2. "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
3. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
4. They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5. "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long;
6. they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
7. they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
8. "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
9. And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
10. Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you will be your servant.
12. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
13. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
14. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
16. "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
17. You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
18. You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
19. You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
20. Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
21. And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
22. And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
23. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
24. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
26. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
28. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
30. And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
31. So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
32. Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
33. "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
34. Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
35. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36. I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
37. "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
38. Look, your house is left to you desolate.
39. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
Mark 7:26-27
26. The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
27. "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
And St. Paul chimes in...
Galatians 5:12
As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
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