Orthodox Christians Must Now Learn To Live as Exiles in Our Own Country

Time Magazine ^ | June 26, 2015 | Rod Dreher, editor, The American Conservative

[2ndDivisionVet]

Voting Republican and other failed culture war strategies are not going to save us now.

No, the sky is not falling — not yet, anyway — but with the Supreme Court ruling constitutionalizing same-sex marriage, the ground under our feet has shifted tectonically.

It is hard to overstate the significance of the Obergefell decision — and the seriousness of the challenges it presents to orthodox Christians and other social conservatives. Voting Republican and other failed culture war strategies are not going to save us now.

Discerning the meaning of the present moment requires sobriety, precisely because its radicalism requires of conservatives a realistic sense of how weak our position is in post-Christian America...

[Steve_Seattle]

"Bake the cake, or else #LoveWins and you lose your business or end up in jail."

In other words, accept our notion of "love" or we will destroy you.

[RKBA Democrat]

“I don’t know if there are 38 though.”

There aren’t. And that’s why all this article V talk, or talk of amending the constitution is silly: without 3/4 of the states, it never happens. Further, the implied assumption is that the new and improved constitution will be follwed. Just like the current version is?

[ChildOfThe60s]

Voting Republican and other failed culture war strategies are not going to save us now.

Those willing to see the truth have known for a long time that "voting Republican" (RINO) was never going to save us.

I don't see anything short of massive civil disobedience having any effect. And I don't see that happening without a MLK like charismatic leader organizing and encouraging it.

[panzerkamphwageneinz]

What would blacks do if all the white people left?

[ChildOfThe60s]

Nowhere in that is it implied that we volunteer to act as punching bags.

It's time a whole lot of people figured that out.

[cowboyusa]

I agree. I still sing the National Anthem and honor the flag because they represent the country, but this evil NWO Government deserves neither obedience nor respect.

[RKBA Democrat]

Despair? I’m almost giddy! You can’t fix something until you’re willing to say it’s broken. I think it’s pretty clear that something went clunk.

Americans are great at fixing stuff. One of my favorite parts of our culture.

[liberalism is suicide]

It needs to happen yesterday.

[cripplecreek]

I’m the same way.

Adversity is welcome because it inspires me.

[liberalism is suicide]

National Horror Day is more appropriate

[Secret Agent Man]

#RealBiblicalWedding

[RKBA Democrat]

I think that a whole lot of folks got the memo this week. Now it’s incumbent on us who are pretty good in the slithering and hissing department to assist others.

[cowboyusa]

Not Secession from the Union, but Secession from the NWO Government.

[RKBA Democrat]

I’m writing my first vanity. I am very inspired right now. Very happy, too. We’re at a tipping point where changes can happen.

[Steve_Seattle]

First of all, Christian churches should cease to partner with civil society on marriage - they should no longer require a civil marriage license to perform a religious wedding. If the couple wishes to avail themselves of any civil benefits of marriage, they will be told they must comply with relevant civil law, but that is not the church's business.

Ministers must distance themselves from cooperating with a satanic, secular regime.

And here is the supreme irony: for decades, liberal Christians have chastised regular Christians for their too-cozy relationship with "the American Way." But now, it is LIBERAL Christians who want a cozy relationship with the NEW American Way.

The only way to convert them is to shove that right back in their smug faces. THEY are now the Americans who identify their Christianity with the values of secular America. I guarantee you, THAT will sting, because they are so used to imagining themselves as prophetic outsiders. .

[x_plus_one]

The Lord has his friends and they have nukes and see a good reason to use them.

[mosesdapoet]

WHY I HAVE AN ILLUMINATED CROSS AS A PROTEST

Why aren’t those so called democrats which belong to a democrat in name only ever being called out on their core beliefs ? Nooo that wouldn’t be bi-partisan ! Ask any of those so called GOPES (Government Over the People Elite Statists) campaign advisors about depressing the “democrat” vote and you get a lecture.Democrat core beliefs showed up with booing the mention of God in 2012 which made it official. They’ve declared a war on religion particularly Christianity.Which I for one now have an illumiuated crucifix at night in my front yard facing the street (Highway) as a statement. And encourage others do as well

A DEMOCRAT apparently doesn’t believe there’s such a thing as the Ten Commandments or sin because everything that leaves their mouths is a lie. But I have yet to hear a Republican candidate even suggest even in jest mention why “democrat” lying is part of their core belief ? Never mind the use of their positions promoting clony capitalism campaign contributers financing alternate energy plans spending billions which went belly up at our expense while leaving our infastructure was falling apart......

Why ? Because it isn’t being bi-partisan or lets not forget the other trap politically correct.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Good point. I for one am ashamed of my country. It is just plain embarrassing that we have elevated such a nasty behavior to being “equal” to something it can NEVER equal. They defile and degrade themselves no matter how much society tries to pretend otherwise.

They are literally attracted to and in love with themselves. That is by definition what homosexuality is: woo wee, I am HOT STUFF and I want to “do it” with someone just like me..” Ew! Ick!

[caww]

Religious liberty is ‘not promised’ in the Bible.....Christians have been more than blessed to enjoy unprecedented freedom in our country as no other.... but things are changing...We now see ‘reprobate minds at every level of leadership’... in the Supreme Court, the presidency, cabinet, legislature, press and culture, so society has given way to practical atheism and moral relativism.... This decision has simply ‘accelerated’ the rate of decline.

We see that ‘we really are strangers and exiles in American culture’.... just like we started..... We should have been all along.... and the new normal may include persecution that is new to us.

To think that we deserve to live in different times is to tell God that we deserve a better mission field than the one he has given us.......After all we ARE the Church of Jesus Christ.

In our world it’s often that of an envied privilege to be the son or daughter of an ‘earthly’ prince,... who can express the dignity and happiness of being sons and daughters of the Almighty?

[caww]

Religious liberty is ‘not promised’ in the Bible.....Christians have been more than blessed to enjoy unprecedented freedom in our country as no other.... but things are changing...We now see ‘reprobate minds at every level of leadership’... in the Supreme Court, the presidency, cabinet, legislature, press and culture, so society has given way to practical atheism and moral relativism.... This decision has simply ‘accelerated’ the rate of decline.

We see that ‘we really are strangers and exiles in American culture’.... just like we started..... We should have been all along.... and the new normal may include persecution that is new to us.

To think that we deserve to live in different times is to tell God that we deserve a better mission field than the one he has given us.......After all we ARE the Church of Jesus Christ.

In our world it’s often that of an envied privilege to be the son or daughter of an ‘earthly’ prince,... who can express the dignity and happiness of being sons and daughters of the Almighty?