Posted on 06/26/2015 8:14:13 PM PDT by annalex
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I think NAMBLA with the help of the MSM is going to make a move here. The age of consent will be lowered, you watch.
The axial age figures into this very true comment on the family:
“Confucius and Lao-Tse were living in China, all the schools of Chinese philosophy came into being, including those of Mo Ti, Chuang Tse, Lieh Tzu and a host of others; India produced the Upanishads and Buddha and, like China, ran the whole gamut of philosophical possibilities down to materialism, scepticism and nihilism; in Iran Zarathustra taught a challenging view of the world as a struggle between good and evil; in Palestine the prophets made their appearance from Elijah by way of Isaiah and Jeremiah to Deutero-Isaiah; Greece witnessed the appearance of Homer, of the philosophers - Parmenides, Heraclitus and Plato, - of the tragedians, of Thucydides and Archimedes. Everything implied by these names developed during these few centuries almost simultaneously in China, India and the West.”
—Karl Jaspers, Origin and Goal of History, p. 2
This is an excellent post and one that I shared with my FB friends. The matter of corporal punishment is contested somewhat these days. Between my wife and I we seem to be able to administer discipline without blows. I reckon we would if we had to, but that is something for the NSA to investigate when they have a moment to stop by and have a cup of coffee.
Plus many of our precious illegal immigrants come from countries with substantially lower ages of consent. We will have to adjust for them.
Well, we agree 95%.
The development of respect for children... predated the arrival of Christ in His Jewish faith tradition, however.
Indeed, much of the strong Jewish emphasis on family and children was already well-established. It did not suddenly leap into existence at Calvary. You can see it in Jesus’s own Jewish family (at least as tradition provides). Jesus’ Jewish (and later, many gentile) followers then spread this family-orientation (along with all the rest of the received Jewish morals and ethics) to multitudes of pagans as part and parcel of the spread of Christianity (especially insofar as Europe, etal were concerned).
See, for instance,,,,
http://www.academia.edu/8089274/Judaism_Children_in_Jewish_History_and_Culture_
in short, if we adopt the modern “Judeo=Christian” phrase for most of your essay, we get it right on.
Best,
Yeah, but what Christ made out of Judaism is not paralleled in India and China.
They'll find a case of a child who will state publicly that he enjoys sex with his older "partner."
The "it's illegal for me to love whom I wish" argument will be used with the result we've already seen.
Why, I don’t disagree. The Old Testament, without doubt, has great emphasis on the unique relationship that the children have with God. Christianity was building on a fertile ground.
I like children....other people’s children...for maybe 10 minutes....
Let me disagree respectfully. Christianity was not just “building on a fertile ground.” The religion of the Old Testament - better put, the faith (objectively speaking) of the Old Testament - was not something different than Christianity. It was pre-Christianity. Or, better, Christianity is the Old Testament faith brought to full flower, the Pharisees and Sadducees notwithstanding. They were the errorists. Joseph and Mary, Zechariah and Elizabeth, Simeon and Anna, were the faithful, the true children of Abraham, people after the heart of God even as King David was.
Indeed, we must never forget the importance of the simple statement: Jesus live don this earth as a Jew among Jews.
You remind me. I had a wonderful grandfather. He volunteered to serve under General Kolchak, the last legitimate ruler of Russia, then made a living as a math teacher. He spat on the name of Stalin, with a passion, even on the day of Stalin’s death in 1953. He taught me geometry, the Euclidian way, with compass and ruler. He beat his students, furtively, with a jab under the rib. Good man. Well, he did not like any children. “Granpy, granpy, hold him!” caused him to twitch his face and whisper under his mustache: “Sure, and he’ll shit himself right there. Eeeegh”. He smoke cheap cigarettes and smelled them, and he shaved with a real razor, sharpening it against a belt-like contraption.
So no, take it from my blessed granddad. We are not to
fawn over children. We are to see God in them.
It’s a repost, but one worth repeating...
Thanks.
(There, fixed that . . .)
Are we talking degrees here? I think, the pivot was "Suffer children to come to me, and forbid them not" (Luke 18:16). I agree that in the role that the children play in the Old Testament there is a precursor to that. Surely, the scenes of depravity commonplace in pagan Rome would not be possible in Jerusalem, but the idea that there is something mystical about the soul of a child (Matthew 18:10) had a unique impact on the Christian culture, as the author notes.
I am sorry if it is. I think, the homosexual “marriage” ukase gives this article a new prominence.
Exactly. I was going to insert a reference to the abortion of justice perpetrated by the SCOTUS, but my packet-radio connection drops out at times...
You know, perhaps given my background, I am not so despondent over this. The Constitution is a beautiful document, but that is all it is: a document. Of course, the ruling class will find enough hacks in robes to tell us that pink elephants are in it. People just have to live how they always had lived: do what's moral, don't do what's immoral, and if what you do is at variance with the ruling class, don't get caught. Not complicated.
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