Evidently nothing...
Posted on 05/22/2015 8:54:09 PM PDT by imardmd1
Excerpted:
What Catholic mysticism does is reject the Bible as the sole and sufficient and perfect revelation of God and tries to delve beyond the Bible, even beyond thought of any kind, and find God through mystical “intuition.” In other words, it is a rejection of the God of the Bible. It says that God cannot be known by doctrine and cannot be described in words. He can only be experienced through mysticism. This is a blatant denial of the Bible’s claim to be the very Word of God.
This opens the practitioner to demonic delusion. He is left with no perfect objective revelation of God, no divinely-revealed authority by which he can test his mystical experiences and intuitions. He is left with an idol of his own vain imagination (Jeremiah 17:9) and a doctrine of devils.
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She (Sue Monk Kidd) determined that she was willing to lose her marriage, if necessary.
"I would not, could not forfeit my journey for my marriage or for the sake of religious acceptance or success as a ‘Christian writer.’ I would keep moving in my own way to the strains of feminine music that sifted up inside me, not just moving but embracing the dance. ... I felt the crumbling of the old patriarchal foundation our marriage had rested upon in such hidden and subtle ways. Though both of us would always need to compromise, there was no more sacrificing myself, no more revolving around him, no more looking to him for validation, trying to be what I thought he needed me to be. My life, my time, my decisions became newly my own" (pp. 98, 125).
(Excerpt) Read more at wayoflife.org ...
You are correct MM. The way the priests and nuns explained it to us, in religion class in my catholic grade school and high school, was that a non catholic could go to Heaven, if they had never been told that they must join the Catholic Church. Once they were told they needed to join the RCC, then if they refused, they were condemned to Hell. Whether they taught us rightly or wrongly, is a subject for another thread, but that is what they taught us. I suppose, according to the Catholics, those of us who willingly left the RCC are totally up a creek, as we are supposed to know better than to leave the church. Oh well, such is life. I am comfortable with my decision. I am sure you are too. 😇 Good choice on our part. 😂 But hey, all was not lost. At least I got to play hockey at St James High School, at 1600 4th Ave North, in Grand Forks, ND. I made all state, 2nd team my senior year. The only college that recruited me to play hockey for them, was Gustavus Adolphus, south of Minneapolis. At the time, however, I was a "good catholic" whatever that means, but Gustavus Adolphus was an evangelical Lutheran college, and was beneath my dignity, so I just joined the Air Force instead. 🇺🇸
Evidently nothing...
Didn't a certain serpent, I can't remember his name, say the same thing to a certain woman, I can't remember her name, in a certain garden, I can't remember it's name either?
Are you Catholic?
Because if you are, your opinion is not an option for you.
-— The way the priests and nuns explained it to us, in religion class in my catholic grade school and high school, was that a non catholic could go to Heaven, if they had never been told that they must join the Catholic Church. Once they were told they needed to join the RCC, then if they refused, they were condemned to Hell. -—
Substitute the word “understood” for “were told” and you have the correct teaching.
Either they were all wrong or you misinterpreted one key word.
Non-Catholics have to understand that the Catholic Church is the church that Christ founded to be morally culpable for not joining the Church.
See “invincible ignorance.”
If they don’t understand it, through no fault of their own, they MAY be saved. The state of anyone’s soul at any given time can only be known with absolute certainty by God.
The change that occurred immediately in my life when I accepted Christ was unmistakeable and profound.
It was not a matter of being told what to do and doing it.
It came from within and was so dramatic that the only explanation for it was being truly born again.
Therefore I have no doubts about the reality of my conversion experience and am also comfortable with the decision I made.
Affirmative sir. Most of our "leaders" are a bunch of Godless evil hordes, whose god is their belly and whose glory is in their shame. I pray it is not too late to rid the country of these evil scum bags. BTW, I have always believed that Obama was chosen by God, to be His instrument of judgement on America for her sins. I still believe it. Since it appears to me, that Anerica might possibly not be getting the memo, more judgement is necessary and the Hildebeast will be the next occupant of the white hut, so the evil will continue. I hope I am wrong, but I don't see any evidence of a revival going on.
Being as the priests and nuns pounded it into our heads almost every day for the 12 years I was in catholic school, if I misinterpreted their word for word teaching, so did every other member of my school. They taught us in such a way, it left no room for misinterpretation. So, if they were wrong in what they taught us, how can I know for sure if anything they taught me was true. In one religion class, the priest told us the Garden of Eden story and the Noah's arc story did not happen physically, but were only allegorical. To be fair, other priests said both happened physically, just as reported in Genesis, so you can see, there were differences in paradise. At any rate, I am comfortable where I am now. 😇 Praise the Lord.
It came from within and was so dramatic that the only explanation for it was being truly born again.
Therefore I have no doubts about the reality of my conversion experience and am also comfortable with the decision I made.
Yep, I can relate to that. My friends never tried to pry all the false doctrine out of my life. They just said, here is the "Book," read it, and I did. I am STILL comfortable with my decision. When Jesus healed the man who was blind from birth, he simply said, once I was blind, but now I see.
“Right there, the Catholic church condemns to hell those who have heard of the Catholic church and won’t join it.”
If the Church preaches that, then the Church is wrong.
I attended Catholic schools until I went to college (the first non-Catholic school I ever attended was in college), and I NEVER heard it said that only Catholics are saved. NEVER!!! But, I attended Catholic schools in California, so maybe we were a bit more rationale than Catholic schools elsewhere.
I think a great study should be done around here. Catholics vote on IF they know this or that about their church. It’s amazing to me how many DIFFERENT things so many DON’T know about. Don’t they have catechism or something?
Oh, so you subscribe to Catholicism now? After all, according to you the Catholics had all the texts, and you happily cite scripture to support your point; ergo, you must necessarily agree with what the Catholics gave you.
That’s all you got? Do you believe in the trinity or not?
If Mary’s not the mother of God, who is Jesus? You claim to know Jesus, right? Then who is he?
Am I Catholic? Yes. Am I a fanatic, who takes everything literally? No. Do I disagree with Church dogma? On some points, vigorously so. I guess that makes me a poor Catholic, or a lapsed Catholic. I really don’t care. God and his Son know me, and that’s all that matters to me.
YOU were the one who trotted out the counting and application of time to make a point about Mary receiving prayers. I assume you believe Mary died a couple thousand years ago, so if she is receiving any prayers she must be receiving them somewhere. Since she is dead, she must therefore necessarily exist somewhere in order to receive these prayers, some “afterlife.” I assumed that you were of the belief that that “somewhere” was heaven. Hence, my question to you was simple: Is your heaven or afterlife “time” based on the 24-hour clock? Because if it is a 24-hour clock, then all who reside there are restrained and constrained by that clock.
I’m still waiting for your answer.
I stopped going to Mass when it was changed from Latin to English, and they trotted out the guitars.
How long ago was that? You mean you didn’t think Sally Field flew for the Vatican? :)
(Now that we've whittled God down to our size.)
Oh, wait . . .
Marty Mary
I did not know that. I doubt most Filipinos know that either. My wife did not know it, but EVERYONE knows that MacArthur said "People of the Philippines, I shall return." And he did. Visiting MacArthur Park, in Palo, Leyte, will take your breath away, as you see the 7 statues commemorating his return to the Philippines. The Filipinos have NEVER forgotten that. There are many streets, roads and avenues named after him. The only other thing on my bucket list, is to visit Capas, Tarlac, near where my uncle died on the Bataan death march in 1942. My dad named me after him. My mom told me that years later, they were watching news reel footage of the death march, and my dad swore he saw his brother in the film. Who knows for sure, but he DID die on the death march. That we know for sure. I want to see if his name is written on the memorial there.
Maybe you have heard their little poem:
We're the battlin' bas----s of Bataan,
no mama, no papa, no Uncle Sam.
No aunts, no uncles, no cousins, no nieces.
No pills no planes, no artillery pieces
And nobody gives a da--
Nobody gives a da--
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