Posted on 05/16/2015 7:42:40 AM PDT by Salvation
Baptisms in the Bible —
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Enough said. Anything else added by the Catholic Cult is falsehood.
Hoss
Provide the Scripture verses to support the Catholic add ons and we will consdier whether they’re mistaken and should be removed from out heads.
So whatever happened to “one Lord, one faith, ONE baptism”?
Do y’all throw that one out when convenient?
Playing both ends against the middle hoping that y’all have your bases covered just in case.
Wrong question....how many types of baptism are in the church as outlined in the Word?
One
Again....baptism is not what saves you. Faith in Christ saves you. And faith begins how?
Hearing the Word
Believing the Word and repenting. It is at this point you are sealed by the Holy Spirit
Baptize (an outward expression of an inward change)
Produce fruit for the Kingdom.
The whole “smart” notion really reveals just how flawed the Romanists are. The difference between the person who does not believe and the person who does believe isn’t “intelligence,” lest we open the grounds for boasting. The difference is only one thing: Grace. Any other answer than this puts you on the Works-righteousness end of the Gospel, and thus reveals you to be an infidel and a Pharisee.
Humility might have been a better word. The Good Thief knew he had sinned, he repented on the cross he was hanging on and asked Christ’s forgiveness in humility.
Humility still isn't the correct answer to the question: "What causes you to differ from another?" If it's humility, smartness, righteousness, obedience, submission, whatever, it isn't grace:
“For who makes thee to differ, and what has thou that thou hast not received?” (1 Cor. iv. 7). Our merits therefore do not cause us to differ, but grace. For if it be merit, it is a debt; and if it be a debt, it is not gratuitous; and if it be not gratuitous, it is not grace. (Augustine, Sermon 293)
The REST of us: Christ's answer...
Remember; the Jews wanted a King.
The 'gummint' gave us what WE wanted: Choice.
57,000,000 lives or so SNUFFED out in about 43 years. All in an attempt to make us FEEL better.
I ask you...
I'm glad someone besides me has posted words of Augustine.
I just might do the same later in this thread...
AMEN
Please note I am looking for the definition of it. I am not looking for verses that say you should use SS, I am only looking for the Biblical DEFINITION.
A number of your compatriots have only posted verse that say you should use SS, but none of them was able to post a definition of it.
The Reformation principle of sola Scriptura has to do with the sufficiency of Scripture as our supreme authority in all spiritual matters. Sola Scriptura simply means that all truth necessary for our salvation and spiritual life is taught either explicitly or implicitly in Scripture. It is not a claim that all truth of every kind is found in Scripture. The most ardent defender of sola Scriptura will concede, for example, that Scripture has little or nothing to say about DNA structures, microbiology, the rules of Chinese grammar, or rocket science. This or that “scientific truth,” for example, may or may not be actually true, whether or not it can be supported by Scripture—but Scripture is a “more sure Word,” standing above all other truth in its authority and certainty. It is “more sure,” according to the apostle Peter, than the data we gather firsthand through our senses (2 Peter 1:19). Therefore, Scripture is the highest and supreme authority on any matter on which it speaks.
But there are many important questions on which Scripture is silent. Sola Scriptura makes no claim to the contrary. Nor does sola Scriptura claim that everything Jesus or the apostles ever taught is preserved in Scripture. It only means that everything necessary, everything binding on our consciences, and everything God requires of us is given to us in Scripture (2 Peter 1:3).
Furthermore, we are forbidden to add to or take away from Scripture (cf. Deut. 4:2; 12:32; Rev. 22:18–19). To add to it is to lay on people a burden that God Himself does not intend for them to bear (cf. Matt. 23:4).
Scripture is therefore the perfect and only standard of spiritual truth, revealing infallibly all that we must believe in order to be saved and all that we must do in order to glorify God. That—no more, no less—is what sola Scriptura means.
“The whole counsel of God, concerning all things necessary for his own glory, man’s salvation, faith, and life, is either expressly set down in scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit, or traditions of men.” — Westminster Confession of Faith.
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And, while it's not THE single source for this doctrine, in my opinion, the following passage goes a long way to show that the doctrine is correct:
16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:16-17
Note that it says ALL scripture is "breathed out by God" -- inerrant, infallible, and always true accurate and complete. Scripture is profitable for teaching, reproof, correction and training in righteousness -- and get this: that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
Complete. Equipped. Not just for some good works, but every good work.
So the Bible provides ALL that we need for salvation and spiritual life. All the dreck that the Roman Catholic Cult adds is unscriptural. That's why when the idiocy of Rome is trotted out for display, Roman Cultists are challenged to show in scripture the authority provided that claims the need for ANYTHING other than shown plainly in scripture needed for salvation or spiritual life. And there is none for false doctrine....like purgatory, Mariolatry, anything beyond baptism and The Lord's Supper.... just to name a few.
I hope that helps.
Hoss
They don’t have one because it is not a doctrine.
I will accept this "Sola Scriptura simply means that all truth necessary for our salvation and spiritual life is taught either explicitly or implicitly in Scripture." if you can show me these words in the Bible.
I know, I am hoping to get them to understand that, or at least some of the lurkers.
How about John 3:16? He didn't send his only begotten Catholic Church, did he?
How about 2 Timothy 3:16-17? Just showed you that one...
How about every chapter and verse dealing with Christ? in the Old and New Testament?
It seems to me that for someone who claims the Catholic Cult is the provider of scripture that YOU would be able to do this!
What does Nicodemus ask of Christ? What does Christ tell him? John 3.
And really, if you want to see things laid out wholly, you should really try reading the Book of Romans. Paul, though the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, explains the WHOLE process for you.
As I've always believed, Roman Catholics are usually folks who have yet to read the Book of....Romans.
Hoss.
And continually asking for chapter and verse for this is MUCH different than Rome's ANTI-scriptural teaching where chapter and verse is asked of you.
By the way -- you still haven't made one peep about CCC 841! Do you believe, as the Roman Catholic Church instructs you to believe, that you believe in the same false god as the Mohammedans? Or do you disagree with Rome's instruction? No answer must mean you agree!
Hoss
Thank you for adding your name to the mulitude.
How about CCC 841? What do YOU believe? Do you believe what the RCC TELLS you to believe? Do YOU believe in a false god? If you're RCC, they're telling you that's what you do.
Reconcile THAT to scripture. Seems like it's a tad more important that Sola Scritpura, which is a Reformed Doctrine.... not a definition from the Bible.
Which is it? Do you believe in God Almighty and go AGAINST Roman Catholicism, or are you a "faithful Catholic" and believe what CCC 841 teaches -- that Catholics worship the same "God" as Muslims?
Pray... do tell.
Hoss
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