Posted on 05/09/2015 7:44:31 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Two Jesuit novices both wanted a cigarette while they prayed. They decided to ask their superior for permission.
The first asked but was told no. A little while later he spotted his friend smoking and praying. "Why did the superior allow you to smoke and not me?" he asked.
His friend replied, "Because you asked if you could smoke while you prayed, and I asked if I could pray while I smoked!"
Yes...
Bonaventure: the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.
Ephem: devotion to the divine Mother is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.
Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.
Ambrose: constantly pray Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.
Fulgetius: by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.
Athanasius: And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.
Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.
Guerric: he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.
Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.
Antoninus:
souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.
Why?
Not used to pushback?
I...
Must...
Resist...
There is no double standard. Protestants and Catholics both think the other are ignorant of the truth. That’s the nature of an irreconcilable difference. Wasting a Saturday afternoon going back and forth belaboring the point isn’t going to change that dynamic.
I didn’t complain about anything in Post #135. Somebody said Catholics were willfully ignorant of history (a post you didn’t take any issue with). I responded with something almost all Lutherans are also willfully ignorant of: Martin Luther’s “The Jews & Their Lies”.
Simple back and forth. There was no implication that one thing was okay and the other was not. There was action, there was reaction. Pretty basic. I’m totally fine with you all calling Catholics whatever you like.
I wonder why such ardent Conservative FR Catholics whine about it and don't merely DOUBLE the amount they donate.
Problem solved and look at all the bragging righta they'd accrue!
Little late to the party, sweetie.
Even better!
Rome could fund an AlmostFreeRepublic website that EXCLUDES the pesky Prots!
SURELY that would garner MILLIONS of hits from folks wanting to read truth; Truth; TRUTH!!!
Likewise...
Catholics coined the phrase Mother of GOD for a reason.
Saying we see her as a “god” is a gross misrepresentation. One might even call it a blatant lie.
But really... there’s nothing to be accomplished here. We’re just running laps at this point. And I have some outdoor speakers to install for our Memorial Day party in a couple weeks. So, if you don’t mind, I’m going to salvage the rest of my afternoon.
Pointing out that Rome's Mary and the Biblical Mary are really different usually causes heads to explode.
Not when read in context.
There are varied versions.
These usually result from a non-use of the Greek and Hebrew.
There are non-literal allegorical statements in scripture, like the parables told by Jesus.
No...these are not allegory. They are parables.
Translations between languages are less 100% accurate (Aramaic to Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English).
The NT was written in Greek so no Aramaic to worry about. If we go from Greek to any language there is a slight difference in translation. Hence it befalls upon the teacher to explain the nuances of Greek to be sure the English (or whatever language) hearer understands the text.
There are timelines (like the flood) which dont hold up to archeological evidence.
You presume the Bible is in error in the account of the flood and or possibly creation. If these are not literal, actual accounts, why were there referenced in the NT?
Councils of people selected what was to be included and excluded.
If you're referring to the canon, the church decided what was included and not. There were several conditions the church required to have a text included.
Meanings and usage change over time. If I were to note in my journal in 1970 that someone was cool, by 2570 a reader might think it miraculous that their body temperature was abnormally low.
This is true and which is why we should rely upon the Greek in understanding the word. The Greek does not change.
I could; but you're too ignert to understand it!
--CAtholic_wanna_Be(Hail Mary!)
Book, chapter and verse please when quoting scripture
Since I cannot read your mind ;), I would suggest adding this to something like the written guidelines in the profile.
So when you say many things about Mary which ARE Biblical FACTS, and then throw some apparitions and visitations that are not, it becomes that worst kind of lie of all.
Let's try some easy math:
There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;
If merely 1% of them 'ask' Mary for help just once each day;
that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.
Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)
...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!
Purty good fer someone NOT 'divine'!
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