Posted on 05/09/2015 7:44:31 AM PDT by RnMomof7
That doesn't matter. Catholics and Catholicism STILL use it to describe others.
If they can dish it out, they ought to be able to take it.
Catholics being offended, or taking offense, when someone uses a word that they have no qualms about using for others, is a double standard, aka, hypocrisy.
Sure. Who needs Jesus or the Holy Spirit anyway?
Well?
They do not even realize they do it, it is so ingrained
Please...
...stop digging...
...please.
R2z
Not by me, it wasn’t. And looking at the post (#44, actually), the term was misused. It applies to people who have not been exposed to God’s Word, through no fault of their own (most commonly with regards to infants).
Amen
Your concerns are noted.
If you read the RF often, you will see that the same concerns are valid for just about every faith represented here.
As for a reply posted to a particular member that is personal, the guidelines prohibit that because those types of posts tend to start flame wars that distract from the issues germane to the threads.
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Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
And there it is..out in the open.. she was born without sin, she lived a life without sin ..when she died her body was taken into heaven .... she is a god..
BTW who did Jesus think was the most important person born of women??....UMMMMM not Mary .... Mat 11:11 Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John
How has God revealed this to you ??
Yet post #170 is still there, and mine was deleted.
Noted.
My points have been made. So have the site operator’s. Delete what posts of mine you wish.
R2z
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BTTT!
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I’m not sure what you’re referring to. The quoted text isn’t mine.
If this is still about “invincible ignorance”, again, anyone using it as a pejorative hasn’t read Aquinas.
No one here is invincibly ignorant. The means to salvation are available to each and every one of us. For a little while longer, anyway.
Does the term *invincibly ignorant* ring a bell?
I'm not Catholic and don't presume to speak there, but here I can think of a distinction, even without invoking anything specifically Catholic-related.
"Ignorant" and related words can be used neutrally or "negatively." (I suppose that in some cases it may even be used "positively," though I've never seen such a use. But as I've seen similar things, like "I'm proud to say that I've never watched [insert name of TV show here] and have no idea what you're talking about," I would be amazed if someone else has seen an example.)
A phrasing like "you are ignorant of this"--at least in my experience--is almost invariably negative, since there's usually the implication that the ignorance marks a failing in the intellect or goodness of the accused, such as "if you were smarter, you would not be ignorant about this" or "if you were a better person, you would've made sure that you were informed about this." In fact, if anything, in this regard "invincible ignorance" is somewhat of an opposite, since it seems to refer to ignorance that comes without such a failing.
(I also notice that the Religion Moderator profile says, "When in doubt, avoid the use of the pronoun 'you' and Freeper's names - or put yourself in the other guy's shoes." I'm reminded of the fairly common advice to avoid "'you' language" in certain cases. I've found this advice to be useful.)
Also: be careful of using such reasoning as I quoted at the top (we recently had a "Word for the Day" post about "tuo quoque"). Someone who's read enough of the Religion Forum--or even just this thread--can easily turn it against Protestants and others.
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