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The Decision of the Holy Spirit & Us – The Council of Jerusalem & the Catholicity of Early Church
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-07-15 | Msgr. Charlels Pope

Posted on 05/08/2015 7:56:34 AM PDT by Salvation

It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – On the Council of Jerusalem and the Catholicity of the Early Church

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

CJ 50

In the first reading at today’s Mass is recounted the Council of Jerusalem, which scholars generally date to around 50 A.D. It was a pivotal moment in the history of the Church, since it would set forth an identity for the Church that was independent of the culture of Judaism per se, and would open wide the door of inculturation to the Gentiles. This surely had a significant effect on evangelization in the early Church.

Catholic ecclesiology is evident here in this first council in that we have a very Catholic model of how a matter of significant pastoral practice and doctrine is properly dealt with in the Church. What we see here is the same model that the Catholic Church has continued to use right up to the present day. In this and all subsequent ecumenical councils, there is a gathering of the bishops, presided over by the Pope, which considers and may even debate a matter. In the event that consensus cannot be reached, the Pope resolves the debate. Once a decision is reached it is considered binding and a letter is issued to the whole Church.

All these elements are seen in this first council of the Church in Jerusalem, though in seminal form. Let’s consider this council, beginning with some background.

1. Bring in the Gentiles! Just prior to ascending, the Lord gave the Apostles the great commission: Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (Matt 28:19). Hence, the Gentiles were now to be summoned and included in the ranks of discipleship and of the Church.

2. But the Church was mighty slow in beginning any outreach to the Gentiles. While it is true that on the day of Pentecost people from every nation heard the sermon of Peter, and more than 3000 converted, they were all Jews (Acts 2). In fact, it seems that at first the Church did little to leave Jerusalem and go anywhere at all let alone to all the nations.

3. Perhaps as a swift kick in the pants the Lord allowed a persecution to break out in Jerusalem after the stoning of Stephen (Acts 7). This caused the gospel to begin a northward trek, into Samaria at least. Samaritans, however, are not usually considered Gentiles, since they were a group that had intermarried with Jews in the 8th century B.C. There was also the baptism of an Ethiopian official, but he, too, was a Jew.

4. Fifteen Years? The timeline of Acts is a bit speculative. However, if we study it carefully and compare it to some of what Paul says (especially in Galatians), it would seem that it was 12 to 15 years before the baptism of the first Gentile took place! If this is true then it is a disgrace. There was strong racial animosity between Jews and Gentiles, and that may explain the slow response to Jesus’ commission. It may explain it, but it does not excuse it.

5. Time for another kick in the pants. This time the Lord goes to Peter, who was praying on a rooftop in Joppa, and by means of a vision teaches him that he should not call unclean what God calls clean. The Lord then sends to Peter an entourage from Cornelius, a high Roman military official seeking baptism. Cornelius, of course, is a Gentile. The entourage requests that Peter accompany them to meet Cornelius at Cesarea. At first, he is reluctant. But then recalling the vision (kick in the pants) that God gave him, Peter decides to go. In Cesarea, he does something unthinkable: Peter, a Jew, enters the house of a Gentile. He has learned his lesson and as the first Pope has been guided by God to do what is right and just. After a conversation with Cornelius and the whole household, as well as signs from the Holy Spirit, Peter baptizes them. Praise the Lord! It was about time. (All of this is detailed in Acts 10.)

6. Many are not happy with what Peter has done and they confront him on it. Peter explains his vision and also the manifestation of the Holy Spirit, insisting that this is how it is going to be. And while it is true that these early Christians felt freer to question Peter than we would the Pope today, it is also a fact that what Peter has done is binding even if some of them don’t like it; what Peter has done will stand. Once Peter has answered them definitively, they reluctantly assent and declare somewhat cynically, “God has granted life giving repentance even to the Gentiles!” (Acts 11:18)

7. Trouble is brewing. So, the mission to the Gentiles is finally open. But that does not mean that the trouble is over. As Paul, Barnabas, and others begin to bring in large numbers of Gentile converts, some among the Jewish Christians begin to object that they are not like Jews and insist that the Gentiles must be circumcised and follow the whole of Jewish Law—not just the moral precepts but also the cultural norms, kosher diet, purification rites, etc. (That is where we picked up the story in yesterday’s Mass.)

8. The Council of Jerusalem – Luke, a master of understatement, says, “Because there arose no little dissension and debate …” (Acts 15:2) it was decided to ask the Apostles and elders in Jerusalem to gather and consider the matter. So the Apostles and some presbyters (priests) with them meet. Of course Peter is there, as is James, who was especially prominent in Jerusalem among the Apostles and would later become bishop there. Once again, Luke rather humorously understates the matter by saying, “After much debate, Peter arose” (Acts 15:7).

Peter arises to settle the matter since, it would seem, the Apostles themselves were divided. Had not Peter received this charge from the Lord? The Lord had prophesied, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has demanded to sift you all like wheat but I have prayed for you Peter, that your faith may not fail; and you, when once you have turned again, strengthen your brothers (Luke 22:31-32). Peter now fulfills this text, as he will again in the future, and as will every Pope after him. Peter clearly dismisses any notion that the Gentiles should be made to take up the whole burden of Jewish customs. Paul and Barnabas rise to support this. Then James (who it seems may have felt otherwise) rises to assent to the decision and asks that a letter be sent forth to all the Churches explaining the decision. He also asks for and obtains a few concessions.

So there it is, the first council of the Church. And that council, like all the Church-wide councils that would follow, was a gathering of the bishops in the presence of Peter, who worked to unite them. At a council, a decision is made and a decree binding on the whole Church is sent out—very Catholic, actually. We have kept this Biblical model ever since that first council. Our Protestant brethren have departed from it because they have no pope to settle things when there is disagreement. They have split into tens of thousands of denominations and factions. When no one is pope, everyone is pope.

A final thought: Notice how the decree to the Churches is worded. It is the decision of the Holy Spirit and of us (Acts 15:28). In the end, we trust the Holy Spirit to guide the Church in matters of faith and morals. We trust that decrees and doctrines that issue forth from councils of the bishops with the Pope are inspired by and authored by the Holy Spirit Himself. And there it is right in Scripture, the affirmation that when the Church speaks solemnly in this way, it is not just the bishops and the Pope speaking as men, it is the Holy Spirit speaking with them.

The Church—Catholic from the Start!



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicchurch; councilofjerusalem; councils; earlychurch; holyspirit; msgrcharlelspope
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Salvation

I’m not a good historian but this seems to be the RCC taking credit for something that isn’t theirs, again.


21 posted on 05/08/2015 9:31:35 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God is very intollerant, why shouldn't I be?)
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To: DungeonMaster

“I’m not a good historian but this seems to be the RCC taking credit for something that isn’t theirs, again.”

Right you are.


22 posted on 05/08/2015 9:40:21 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: DungeonMaster
I’m not a good historian but this seems to be the RCC taking credit for something that isn’t theirs, again.

The gathered apostles and presbyters were teaching with the authority of the Holy Spirit. Where did this teaching authority go?

23 posted on 05/08/2015 10:12:19 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: DungeonMaster
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24 posted on 05/08/2015 10:15:45 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Petrosius
The gathered apostles and presbyters were teaching with the authority of the Holy Spirit. Where did this teaching authority go?

There is no human ownership or authority of the Truth.

"The Church" is not a denomination or a building and any truth within "The Church, the body of Christ" is not owned by the body.

25 posted on 05/08/2015 10:18:35 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God is very intollerant, why shouldn't I be?)
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To: Salvation

The Papists are at it again, I see. Inserting the Papacy, an institution that arose in the 600’s, but having its roots some 300 years earlier in the church-state arrangement of the time of Constantine, into the church of the first century.

RnMomof7 posted a similar thread not too long ago, about how the Papacy presupposes their institution into the Bible - in this case, the book of Acts. Everywhere it doesn’t belong, in other words.

How anybody can think those that gathered in Jerusalem, Peter, James, etc., were a bunch of rosary bead counting, Mary idloators, is beyond me.


26 posted on 05/08/2015 10:25:33 AM PDT by sasportas
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yet it is based on the scriptures.


27 posted on 05/08/2015 10:42:40 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

“Yet it is based on the scriptures.”

In the same way a Scottish Terrior is Scottish.


28 posted on 05/08/2015 11:22:21 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Salvation; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
What new thing is this? Thank you for another opportunity to expose papal propaganda for the specious polemcal eisegesis that it is!.

He has learned his lesson and as the first Pope has been guided by God to do what is right and just.

There simply is no Roman papacy here, while what he preaches is the evangelical gospel; not that of Rome!

. Once Peter has answered them definitively, they reluctantly assent and declare somewhat cynically, “God has granted life giving repentance even to the Gentiles!” (Acts 11:18)

More eisegesis. Peter does not answered them definitively, which is language used for formally defining a matter of faith and morals, but simply explains his actions by describing what happened in response to preaching the gospel. Which was that " To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins." (Acts 10:43) Which happened before baptism.

Once Peter has answered them definitively, they reluctantly assent and declare somewhat cynically, “God has granted life giving repentance even to the Gentiles!” (Acts 11:18)

Nothing here infers cynicism.

it was decided to ask the Apostles and elders in Jerusalem to gather and consider the matter. So the Apostles and some presbyters (priests) with them meet.

Note that Peter did not call the council, while there were no NT priests as presbuteros are never called hierus, the fallacy of which was just refuted here on another current thread, by God's grace.

Peter arises to settle the matter...Then James (who it seems may have felt otherwise) rises to assent to the decision and asks that a letter be sent forth to all the Churches explaining the decision. He also asks for and obtains a few concessions.

Rather, Peter gives his testimony and consequent exhortation to assent to the evangelical gospel, which Paul also already held to, by which souls were regenerated and their hearts were purified by faith before baptism. Yet there was no attempt to argue from Scripture or oral tradition, nor language such as befits an infallible decree, and Instead of this being set forth as the definitive sentence, it was an exhortation.

And as the matter was not yet settled, Paul and Barnabas added their confirmatory testimony. And then after they had held their peace, James answered and provided Scriptural argumentation confirmatory of Peter and Paul, showing this event as fulfilling prophecy, and then James alone gave the definitive sentence as to what should be done, with Scriptural restrictions. And which sentence all concurred with, rather than Peter's word being the final judgment which settled the debate.

And in no case was all the church looking to either Peter, James or Paul as the supreme infallible authorities, but even the sentence of James was more a proposal, which looked for the confirmatory consent of the faithful on the weight of Scriptural substantiation, versus the veracity resting upon the p novel and unScriptural premise of ensured perpetual magisterial infallibility as per Rome (and basically in primary cults).

At a council, a decision is made and a decree binding on the whole Church is sent out—very Catholic, actually.

The Mormons could claims as much, but as with them, the papacy of Rome and her priests are not Scriptural, nor is her premise of her presumed perpetual magisterial infallibility.

We have kept this Biblical model ever since that first council.

Since the Biblical model did not involve the church looking to Peter as the first of a line of infallible popes reigning supreme over all the church, Rome can only claim to be the predecessor of so many sola ecclesia cults.

Our Protestant brethren have departed from it because they have no pope to settle things when there is disagreement.

And as Rome pseudo-apostles fail of both the qualifications and credentials of the real manifest ones of God, (Acts 1:21,22; 1Cor. 9:1; Gal. 1:11,12; 2Cor. 6:1-0; 12:12) then it is she which has departed from the Biblical model.

Nor does Scripture ever record or teach any apostolic successors (like for James: Acts 12:1,2) after Judas, who was to maintain the original 12: Rv. 21:14) nor teach of any apostolic successors elected by voting, versus casting lots (no politics). (Acts 1:15ff)

But as Scripture only teaches of presbuteros being continually ordained as overseers of the church, (Acts 20:28; 1Tim. 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-7) so evangelicals ordain these. And as Acts 15 teaches the principle of corporate judgment under leadership, so are they to exercise the same.

The unity under the Roman model of ensured perpetual magisterial veracity a is cultic, not Scriptural. And while a centralized is ideal, the limited degree of Scriptural NT unity was under Scriptural substantiation in word and in power, with men who could say they were, "in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God,... By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned, By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left... (2 Corinthians 6:4,7)

The disunity of today is a judgment for lacking this manner of holy men.

When no one is pope, everyone is pope.

Wrong. When no one is pope, then no one is pope, which is NT Scriptural, versus holy men, if not possessing ensured formulaic infallibility. For again, the church did not look to Peter as the first of a line of infallible popes reigning in Rome over all the church. Which instead was something that developed, much taking upon the form of the Roman empire in which it found itself. Even Catholic scholars, among others, provide evidence against the RC propaganda.

We trust that decrees and doctrines that issue forth from councils of the bishops with the Pope are inspired by and authored by the Holy Spirit Himself.

.Such fantasy may comfort the ignorant or devout, but the fact is the Rome is hardly a model of unity. Consider the disunity than can result under the premise of God guiding the church in matters of faith and morals thru the pope, not unchanging Scripture being supreme.

Meanwhile, you left out what can happen when Rome loses her cultic control, and what happened prior to the needed, if imperfect, Reform-ation in the light of RC deformation :

"For nearly half a century, the Church was split into two or three obediences that excommunicated one another, so that every Catholic lived under excommunication by one pope or another, and, in the last analysis, no one could say with certainty which of the contenders had right on his side. The Church no longer offered certainty of salvation; she had become questionable in her whole objective form--the true Church, the true pledge of salvation, had to be sought outside the institution."

"It is against this background of a profoundly shaken ecclesial consciousness that we are to understand that Luther, in the conflict between his search for salvation and the tradition of the Church, ultimately came to experience the Church, not as the guarantor, but as the adversary of salvation. (Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, head of the Sacred Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith for the Church of Rome, “Principles of Catholic Theology,” trans. by Sister Mary Frances McCarthy, S.N.D. (San Francisco: Ignatius, 1989) p.196). http://www.whitehorseinn.org/blog/2012/06/13/whos-in-charge-here-the-illusions-of-church-infallibility/)

As for modern times, as one poster wryly commented: The last time the church imposed its judgment in an authoritative manner on "areas of legitimate disagreement," the conservative Catholics became the Sedevacantists and the Society of St. Pius X, the moderate Catholics became the conservatives, the liberal Catholics became the moderates, and the folks who were excommunicated, silenced, refused Catholic burial, etc. became the liberals. The event that brought this shift was Vatican II; conservatives then couldn't handle having to actually obey the church on matters they were uncomfortable with, so they left. — Nathan, http://www.ratzingerfanclub.com/blog/2005/05/fr-michael-orsi-on-different-levels-of.html

And consider the disunity than can result under the premise of God guiding the church in matters of faith and morals thru the pope, not unchanging Scripture being supreme./

Rather, God never provided or needed ensured perpetual magisterial infallibility in order to discern Truth or preserve Faith, and in fact the church began in dissent from those whom, like Rome, presumed of themselves above that which was written.

But laymen recognized what was of God without an infallible mag., and God often raised up men from without the magisterium to preserve faith, and thus the church began and has continued as the body of Christ.

The Biblical model has not been tried and found wanting, but wanting to be tried, with the the novel and unScriptural premise of ensured perpetual magisterial infallibility of Rome being a cultic substitute.

29 posted on 05/08/2015 1:33:56 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
1. “Paul was at the Council of Jerusalem. He agreed with Peter about reaching out to the gentiles. And he recognized Peter’s authority as the leader of the Council to release gentile converts from purely ritual Jewish laws.”

2. God interceded in Peter’s life by vision to tell him Gentiles are not unclean, but included in the Gospel. The Holy Spirit confirmed this.

Paragraph 1, Yes.

Paragraph 2, Yes.

You didn't intend #2 to somehow rebut #1, did you? (Or maybe I didn't understand your intention.)

God interceded in Peter's life by a vision, not for just Peter personally, but because Peter, as leader of the Council, would be he one to relay this to the rest. After he'd told them the message he'd received from Heaven, the Holy Spirit's message, they knew the right path to take.

30 posted on 05/08/2015 2:56:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Thy faithful, and kindle in them the fire of Thy love.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Elsie
Preach it AMPU.

Elsie, can I anticipate that you will name names? 😂

31 posted on 05/08/2015 3:02:12 PM PDT by Mark17 (The love of God, how rich and pure, how measureless and strong. It shall forever more endure.)
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To: sasportas; Salvation
"How anybody can think those that gathered in Jerusalem, Peter, James, etc., were a bunch of rosary bead counting, Mary idloators, is beyond me."

Major Anachronism alert! The Rosary was not popularized until the 13th Century, so you'd only be off by about 12 centuries here. The Rosary does not define the presence of the Church. It is not the defining element.

The Church also does not comprise Mary 'Idloators' (sic).

And the Papacy did not "arise" 300 or 600 years after Christ. This is tendentious , and also rests on a false and anachronistic definition of "Papacy."

You need an adequate definition of what the Catholic Church is before you can venture a guess about where it is, or is not.

32 posted on 05/08/2015 3:07:38 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Thy faithful, and kindle in them the fire of Thy love.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The Jerusalem council represents the Roman Catholic Church; major misrepresentation alert!

The apostles who spoke at the Jerusalem Council represent the Roman Catholic line of Popes: major misrepresentation alert!

Talk about anachronism.


33 posted on 05/08/2015 3:34:39 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas
"Roman" Catholic is anachronistic as well. As far as we know, neither Peter nor Paul had yet gotten to Rome.

To say "Roman Catholic" is mispaced historically. The Church was "Catholic," tout court. It was only after the 16th Century that the term "Roman Catholic" gained any currency: there was a party of Anglicans who liked to call themselves "Anglo-Catholics," and they launched the correlative term, "Roman Catholics."--- to pin on the Catholics, who called themselves Catholic.

The Anglicans in England also called the Catholics "The Italian Mission." These terms were meant to be put-downs. That's not necessarily true now, but it was then.

And Msgr. Pope (the author here) doesn't speak of "Roman" Catholic, but just of "Catholic," meaning the universal Church.

34 posted on 05/08/2015 3:49:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Thy faithful, and kindle in them the fire of Thy love.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

” You didn’t intend #2 to somehow rebut #1, did you? (Or maybe I didn’t understand your intention.)”

It was a rebuttal of the argument that Peter led the Acts 15 Council. I quoted just a portion of the other poster’s argument.

Peter was categorically wrong about Gentiles and salvation. Paul had to confront him for his hypocrisy. God further had an object lesson with Peter via a vision to show him that Gentiles are not unclean.

As such, Paul was not “recognizing Peter’s authority”. Paul came to the council and brought witnesses to God’s Holy Spirit making clear that God was bringing Gentiles into salvation as he had done with Jews. In this way, the manifestations of the Holy Spirit in the lives of Gentiles made evident that God didn’t want them to become Jews before trusting in the Savior.

All Peter did was relay his own experience. Paul and Barnabas testified to what God did. The advocates of keeping the law came to put everyone under bondage. The Council had to resolve this issue.

It was a typical article that uses a passage like some kind of springboard to teach ideas not in the article. We see a lot of that posted around here.


35 posted on 05/08/2015 3:53:21 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Since we’re being so technically precise, i.e., the council being held at Jerusalem not Rome, the term “Catholic” is an anachronism also. The word “Catholic” is not in Acts 15.

Yes, we all know the council wasn’t a rosary bead counting, Mary idolatry “Roman Catholic” one, but the ones who call themselves “Roman Catholics” here on the RF never draw that distinction, they leave everyone with the impression that when we read Acts 15 we are to believe it is their Papist institution that is being represented there.


36 posted on 05/08/2015 4:11:57 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: Salvation; aMorePerfectUnion
I’ll take Christ’s words in the Gospels over Paul’s any day.

Oppps so much for the claim the apostles were infallible huh ???

37 posted on 05/08/2015 5:00:51 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Salvation; DungeonMaster
More history for you -- reality history, that is.

History written and edited by Rome...

38 posted on 05/08/2015 5:02:06 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Cicero; aMorePerfectUnion; DungeonMaster
Paul was at the Council of Jerusalem. He agreed with Peter about reaching out to the gentiles. And he recognized Peter’s authority as the leader of the Council to release gentile converts from purely ritual Jewish laws.

Do you understand that Peter had been guilty of the practice the council was called to address ?

He separated himself from the gentiles ..and Paul had to confront Peter on this .. face to face (Galatians 2:11-21)

Peter did not 'call the council" nor did he lead it.. James was the leader as the Bishop of Jerusalem ... ( the seat of the church was in Jerusalem ..not Rome) ...Guess that makes James the REAL FIRST POPE HUH??

It was James that announced the final decision ...not Peter ..

Can and Catholic read the scriptures with understanding?...GEEEEE

39 posted on 05/08/2015 5:09:21 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What’s not helping Protestants are when prominent Protestant theologians have decamped, converted to Catholicism, and call Protestant beliefs an embarrassment. This to the point that its only remaining adherents from the congregants of Joel Osteen to Rev. Jeremiah Wright and everything in-between are part of the shoals of fish that can swim only in the shallowest of theological waters.


40 posted on 05/08/2015 5:29:02 PM PDT by Steelfish
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