Posted on 04/18/2015 9:56:28 AM PDT by NRx
Around mid-April, Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia –who once wrote a letter to Barack Obama beseeching the president to reconsider his foreign policies which enable the persecution of Christians in Syria — spoke again of the threat of Christian extinction in the Mideast during a meeting with Greek Defense Minister Panagiotis Kammenos. In the Russian Patriarch’s own words:
"I regularly get reports of horrible crimes that are committed there against Christians, especially in northern Iraq. I have visited those places and I remember that there were many churches and monasteries there. The city of Mosul alone had 45 churches. Now there is not a single one. The buildings have been destroyed. Four hundred churches have been destroyed in Syria… The presence of the Christian minority was a factor that, in a good sense, brought tolerance and good relations between Christians and Muslims… Now Christianity is the most persecuted religion. The same is happening in Nigeria, Pakistan, and Northern Africa. In some countries of Europe, too, people are prohibited from wearing crosses at work, citing the need for tolerance, do not use the word ‘Christmas’, do not call Easter – Easter, saying just winter holiday or spring holiday instead."
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http://www.interfax-religion.com/?act=news&div=11982
The religion of peace had nothing to do with this, right?
So Obama is off to the links in celebration...
But, and I say this as an initial supporter of our involvement in Iraq, it has become clear that our recent policies in this region have led directly to the horrible situation we have now.
Rather than seeking to 'export democracy' we obviously should have maintained relationships with, thus marginal influence over, the regional strongmen, who controlled the zealots and at least allowed minority groups to live in peace within their countries.
I'm sure there are many here who would disagree.
Well, now we can bomb them over there to extinction without regret.
Obama’s concept of love is formed by his Islamic rearing and is the antithesis of the Christian love.
Thousands of Christians are being slaughtered by Obama’s peaceful loving Muslims with the accomplice silence of our taqiyya president.
“In drawing parallels between Christianity and Islam, Obama misses a basic point. Unlike Islam, which, in one century, conquered Arabia, the Middle and Near East, the Holy Land, North Africa and Spain, until the Muslim advance was halted by Charles Martel at Poitiers in France, Christianity did not conquer with the sword, but with the Word.”
Ready to admit it was far better to leave Muammar Gaddafi, Hosni Mubarak, Sadaam Husein, et. al., alone rather than play Thomas Jefferson and ‘spread democracy’?
No, they were not nice guys. But it takes a ruthless thug to deal with a ruthless thug.
Bush Sr. warned against going after Sadaam, but W had to play the rebellious child. Save Reagan, nobody was better on the international scene that GHWB and James Baker. But Condi and Donny would have none of it.
Obama's motives in toppling the remaining strongmen are far more questionable, as we know how he really feels about 'democracy'.
Saddam himself was involved in terrorism, including Islamist. For example, giving checks to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. I don’t regret taking him out, BUT we should have handled things differently.
You are absolutely right! All we created were vacuums into which anarchy and chaos invited the brutal sword of Islamic tribalism.
...rather than play Thomas Jefferson and ‘spread democracy’?
Thomas Jefferson's incursion onto the Shores of Tripoli were not to spread democracy, but to end the Barbary piracy upon American shipping. American independence ended the Royal Navy's protection of its former colonists' shipping, and Jefferson refused to pay the $300,000 Jizya tax that was demanded for our safe passage. That said, I am just as skeptical of this idiotic (and futile) notion of "nation building" as you are.
First of all, thank you for your service to this country as a Marine. We have remained free because of people like you.
I was using Jefferson’s name as someone who participated in the building of this country; a country governed by and for the people. Someone else probably would have been more appropriate.
“Ready to admit it was far better to leave Muammar Gaddafi, Hosni Mubarak, Sadaam Husein, et. al., alone rather than play Thomas Jefferson and ‘spread democracy’?”
You are preaching to the choir.
It all started a very long time ago. Most of it due to the Republican Party’s groveling before TROP because of oil. Remember the excerable maggot Nixon and his running dog Kissinger and the rape of Orthodox Cyprus by America’s dear friendesn the Mohammedan Turks?
Fact of the matter is that murdering Christians who aren't US style "go along to get along Christians" hasn't really bothered people in this country for the past sixty years other than in the abstract. Remember the US Seals and others immediately dispatched to help non-Catholic missionaries kidnapped by Muzzies in the Phillipines?
I do, it was big news until the Philippine military rescued the missionaries and afterward the US poured a significant amount of money on the Philippine Special Forces to help them protect such folks in the future. Muzzies burning Catholics alive and beheading Catholic children in their school uniforms had been great Muzzie sport for years and had never triggered such a reaction.
US "Christianity" is fickle, no two ways about it, and that goes for Catholics and non-Catholics alike. It depends on what the media wants to accomplish and whether something fits their current narrative, that's all. Not on any real commitment to defending Christianity.
JMHo
Baker is a renown antisemite.
Saddam was the single most destabilizing force in the Mid East. It was a damned if you do and damned if you don’t topple him.
I have visited those places and I remember that there were many churches and monasteries there. The city of Mosul alone had 45 churches. Now there is not a single one. The buildings have been destroyed.
It is all since 2003.
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