[Response to 2013 WSJ article] Cultural Catholicism and the End of Life: “You Earned It”

309 words of Wall Street Journal article posted on triablogue Blogspot ^ | Wall Street Journal August 29, 2013 : blog on August 30, 2013 | by PAUL MOSES Wall Street Journal copied by John Bugay

[Resettozero]

Catholics and Orthodox don’t worship relics or icons, they are honored and venerated.

Roman Catholics don't pass gas but they do honor and venerate flatulence.

[Syncro]

I wish all Catholics would ignore the hate on this site.

How ironic, the first reply to your post shows hate from a Catholic. Perhaps Catholics should stop posting hateful comments and outlandish accusations, huh?

Probably some KKK types on this board. I agree, I have not posted in months and after today, will do the same.

162 posted on Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:52:44 AM by CTrent1564

The irony is ignoring the hate posted by you and others in your belief system while complaining about made up hate by those that are not of your denomination.

Thanks for exposing the hypocrisy of some Catholic posters.

Resettozero, metmom: Note the instant hate brought out from mlizzy's complaint.

[caww]

....”you can take all the Free Republic Protestant self anointed prophets and theologians and other internet self anointed theologians to support your view”.....

I prefer taking God at His Word as it is written as the ultimate authority for what I believe and hold true.

“Forever, O LORD, ‘Your word is settled’ in heaven”....Psalm 119:89

....it is settled, determined, fixed, sure, immovable.... Man’s teachings change so often that there is never time for them to be settled; but the Lord’s word is from of old the same, and will remain unchanged eternally.

Therefore it is thee authority above any other...regardless of those who’s paths others choose to follow.

[ealgeone]

You’d probably bow to the Queen of England if you were presented to her but you wouldn’t bow to the Queen of Heaven?

Nope....as American's we don't bow to the Queen of England.

[caww]

The day we accepted Jesus’s sacrifice in it's all sufficiency is the day our life and eternal destination changed from a death sentence to life everlasting....... Therefore from now on we recognize no one according to the flesh; even though we have known Christ according to the flesh, yet now we know Him in this way no longer.....

"Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come. Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us 'to Himself through Christ'....2 cor.5:17

"I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh"............. "Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.".........Ezekiel 36:26/John 3:3

The word 'Therefore' makes a difference...

[ealgeone]

>you shall not bow down yourself to them, nor serve them<

Bowing down means kneeling before....we're not talking about bowing your head here.

Cornelius fell at Peter's feet and Peter told him to get up. John fell before the angel and the angel told him to worship God.

We don't kneel or pray to mary or anyone or anything else. It's pretty clear.

No, it would not. Icons or images of Mary are not the same as Worshiping. Bowing down is only sign of reverence.

Idolatry is much broader than even you definition, not only does it refer to false pagan worship, it also refers to things that Man places or reveres to a level that it challenges his love of God, this could be Money, race, the State [politics or say political party], power, etc.

On this I agree.

[metmom]

No, it would not. Icons or images of Mary are not the same as Worshiping. Bowing down is only sign of reverence. Catholics bow their heads when they enter a Church, or they should, that does not mean they are worshiping the walls of the Church or sacred art, icons, statues, etc. in the Church it is only a sign of reverence.

The problem Catholis have, however, is that the commandment is not to not worhip images, but to not bow down before them, and that we see Catholics doing all the time.

Images of that going on are posted regularly and Catholics still twist and spin and redefine words to justify and excuse their sin.

[Resettozero]

Note the instant hate brought out from (FReeper's) complaint.

1. What the poster later posted while lambasting the site moderation was NOT what was first posted. Poster tried but failed to deceive forum readers.

2. Some FR RCs do not understand that their prevarications follow them and are transparent to those FReepers who have paid attention.

3. Open-thread complaints on FR RF frequently come from some posters who claim to be Roman Catholicism devotees and political conservatives yet speak the language of the left in their complaints and other postings.

4. When current site management is changed eventually, IMO, FR will become only a Catholic Caucus site within a year. Wish current forum rules for moderation could be written on stone tablets for all time, with liberty and justice for all.

5. Good to see you posting.

[caww]

I must have missed the question back thread...so I’ll answer it now...You ask if I believe in the Resurrection of the dead?

Yes but then that does depend on which one your talking about and what you think that might mean.

The Bible tells us what death is....in James 2:26
“the body without the spirit is dead”.

Can we agree on that????

[caww]

....”That would be way to simple for the catholic mindset”....

Perhaps so... but if they don’t get that “simple” part right in their minds and hearts then everything else will just be ‘learning’ without ever seeing or coming to the ‘saving knowledge’ they need to even begin with....they would have “missed the mark” entirely....

...and therefore Jesus words will ring true...”The blind leading the blind”.

[Resettozero]

And they fell into this ditch how many centuries ago...?

[mlizzy]

I wish all Protestants would ignore the hate on this site, as well.

[caww]

You mentioned to another poster...Define “resurrection of the dead” so we’re on the same page”....

But for catholics it might be better to start with what is death to them.

I believe what it is written defines death...”The body without the spirit is dead”....I think that’s in James.

[caww]

...”Catholics do NOT honour the resurrected body. They honour the body that was sown in dishonour. They honour the body that was “sown in weakness”.....

From what I’ve seen written and practiced I have to agree it certainly looks like that. But then let’s see how they define death itself.

The Bible defines it quite well for me...”The body without the spirit is dead.”

[Resettozero]

I wish all Protestants would ignore the hate on this site, as well.

Am not a member of a Protestant denomination. Am insteead a believer in and follower of Lord Jesus Christ alone, the Son of the living God, The only Savior, The Sanctifier, The Healer, and The Coming King.

I gather with like-minded Christians, more than a few of whom are former Roman Catholics, to fellowship and worship God pretty much like the first believers did, except we don't up to temple like those Jews did. And we're mostly but not all Gentiles.

[Religion Moderator]

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[TheStickman]

As a thankful Catholic convert I am always puzzled by the things I read here on FR regarding the Church.

In light of those being murdered throughout the world for believing Jesus Christ is the Son of God who died for us ALL...why the ridicule in this thread?

Makes no sense to me on any level.

May we all come to know God’s Infinite Mercy through Our Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ.

[Resettozero]

As a thankful Catholic convert...

To or from Catholicism?

[TheStickman]

After many years of living in a very dark life I was blessed to be lead to Christ through the Catholic Church.

[Resettozero]

I’m interested to learn if before becoming a member of the RCC, you were a member of another religious group such as Episcopalian, Methodist, or some other denomination.