Posted on 04/16/2015 8:47:22 AM PDT by RnMomof7
Thank you Tomas Torquemada.
I keep forgetting Catholics are not permitted to think for themselves.
I will try to remember that is heresy.
It's called personal responsibility -- if you make a decision, you also accept the consequences of that decision.
This is why (hopefully) we don't have Catholic high school teachers stating that Gay marriage is OK in the classroom.
Thank you.
If I could be permitted the privilege of defining myself I would say that I am a Bible believing Christian who happens to be a Catholic. If this offends some Catholics, so be it. If this offends some Protestants, so be it. I really don’t care.
There are over a billion Catholics in the world today. We are not only the world’s oldest Christian denomination, we are also, by far, the world’s largest Christian denomination. It would be a mistake to assume all one billion Catholics think exactly the same way. Many of us, including me, believe that the Bible is the primary source with respects to the Word of God.
Time will tell. My impression is that the Catholic Church will ease it's views in favour of bringing all people under one belief system.
The church is true because the church says the truth.
I guess the CATHOLIC translators did better; eh??
Luke 22:24-32 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)
24 And there was also a strife amongst them, which of them should seem to be the greater.
25 And he said to them: The kings of the Gentiles lord it over them; and they that have power over them, are called beneficent.
26 But you not so: but he that is the greater among you, let him become as the younger; and he that is the leader, as he that serveth.
27 For which is greater, he that sitteth at table, or he that serveth? Is it not he that sitteth at table? But I am in the midst of you, as he that serveth:
28 And you are they who have continued with me in my temptations:
29 And I dispose to you, as my Father hath disposed to me, a kingdom;
30 That you may eat and drink at my table, in my kingdom: and may sit upon thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
31 And the Lord said: Simon, Simon, behold Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren.
As per their Living Prophet®??
Inconvenient truth
Gal 2:11 Now when Peter[a] had come to Antioch, I withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed; 12 for before certain men came from James, he would eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing those who were of the circumcision. 13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.
14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you compel Gentiles to live as Jews?[ 15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, 16 knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified.
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University) http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng
It has more in common with them that with Christian faiths
Spoken like a 'True Scotsman'!
We Prots wonder why your Fellow FR Catholics don't get on your case about what you 'believe'; then we realize that what you believe doesn't matter to them; as long as you are wearing the CATHOLIC label.
Well, you were correct right up to that point.
Keep reading; What Effect Will Pressure to Accept Same Sex Acts or “Marriage” Have on Church Teaching? None!
It has more in common with them that with Christian faiths
As a proud Catholic, I don't know what it is that you believe in, but I wish you well in that regard.
A hypocrite is someone who SAYS one thing, and DOES another. Peter was separating himself from the Gentiles. If he was preaching the doctrine that the Jews shouldn't eat with the uncircumcised, he would be a heretic, but not a hypocrite. Paul calls him a hypocrite because he knows Peter had been preaching that Christian Jews should be in community with Gentiles (uncircumcized), but was allowing his own community to be divided.
You guys crack me up the way you seem to think that over 2,000 years, not one Catholic ever opened a bible.
It was doctrinal issue that was resolved by the Jerusalem council ... The doctrinal question was were Gentiles bound by the law...
>> Time will tell. My impression is that the Catholic Church will ease it’s views [on homosexuality] in favour of bringing all people under one belief system. <<
You mean like every single Protestant church that existed in 1850, without exception? It happens every generation: a church liberalizes its morality then minority splinters off in a new, smaller schism.
A whopping 36% of Americans claim that they were brought up Catholic, yet only 23% currently belong to a Catholic parish. That’s bad. But 62% of Americans claim they were brought up Protestant, and only 25% belong to a Protestant parish. And from what I can tell, a large portion of that 25% were among the 13% that no longer identify as Catholic.
Yes, it was a doctrinal issue that was resolved at the Council of Jerusalem. The Protestant view is that Peter made his case and that James decided the issue. The Catholic view is that Peter laid out the doctrine and James implemented it. So when people come from James and induce Peter into sinning, does he complain to James? No! He complains to PETER... because Peter has authority over James and should have told James’ people to shove off!
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