Posted on 04/12/2015 11:16:47 AM PDT by RnMomof7
The following is an edited transcript of the audio.
Are Christians under the 10 commandments?
No. The Bible says we're not under the law.
I love Romans 7:4-6. By way of analogy, it says that you are married to the law. And you better stay married because if you leave this husband and go marry another you are going to be called an adulterer. But if your husband dies, then you can go and remarry.
And then Paul draws the analogy out—a little complex the way he does it—saying that you died to the law. You aren't married anymore, you can have another husband, namely Christ. He's raised from the dead.
So, our approach towards ethics is different. We don't ask the question, "Am I under the law?" We are under grace. The law is already fulfilled perfectly by Jesus. We are in Jesus and as far justification goes, God sees it as completed for you, one-hundred percent. He says, "You've trusted my Son. You've been grafted in him. You are in Christ Jesus and he fulfilled the law perfectly. He covered all your sins." God sees you in and through Christ, therefore, as far as final judgment goes God is 100% for you. That is settled and nothing is going to change it.
Now, shall we sin that grace may abound? Paul says, "Dead men don't sin." If you've died to sin, how can you still live in it? The new birth is the writing of the law on our heart so that we are not under it, it is under us. It is just coming out.
The way we strive towards being obedient, holy and loving people is not by getting up in the morning and pulling the list out of our pocket. No! We get on our knees and we open ourselves to the whole counsel of God in the Bible. We saturate and shape ourselves by everything he has done, he is doing and he will do. We stake our lives in the gospel and then instead of serving the law, we serve one another in love.
Love is the fruit of faith in Jesus—faith working through love. And if you ask, "What does love look like?" First John says, "It keeps the commandments." That brings us back to the question, which commandments? I would say, the ones that are loving.
Love God and do as you please is not bad advice, if you're bent on holiness. If you're bent on love the ten commandments are really important. You should hang them on your wall and you should measure your life by them, but in a very different way than when you were under them, because they have been kept for you.
You are now married to the risen Christ. You are not married to the law and the oldness of the letter, but to the newness of the Spirit. Our whole approach towards transformation, love and life is different than list keeping.
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So you can show us that you do not believe Yeshua, nor his Father’s word.
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AMEN!
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I did indeed ask about John 21:20-22:
********* So you’ve never broken the law, then, not even once?
“Peter seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.” ***
That’s not an answer. If you won’t write in your own words an answer, including if you want to how this passage relates to perfectly keeping the law, then provide Catholic writing that does provide answers.*******
And you still have not answered on if you’ve ever broken God’s law. Have you ever sinned?
Nice assertion; but you have to take a snippet from here and a tad from there and a bunch from somewhere else to build up the Calvinosaurus of theology?
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Its not theology, that is what you cling to.
I stick with what the word of God really says. No snippets whatsoever, those, again, are your personal specialty.
Who did Yeshua say he came for?
Who did the prophets say were “A people for his name?”
How did Paul solve the mystery of Yeshua’s forbidden re-marriage in Romans 7?
(no, I do not expect honest answers to these questions to be forthcoming )
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False; you did not formulate any question to me about the scripture in John; your only questions were whether I had ever broken the law, as in sinned ?
In Acts you will find the letter James wrote to the new gentile Christiansm instructing them on how to live and ignore the Judaizers. When you read his instructions, get back to us and tell us what he instructed these newborns to do.
Beloved:
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is begotten by God,
and everyone who loves the Father
loves also the one begotten by him.
In this way we know that we love the children of God
when we love God and obey his commandments.
For the love of God is this,
that we keep his commandments.
And his commandments are not burdensome,
for whoever is begotten by God conquers the world.
And the victory that conquers the world is our faith.
Who indeed is the victor over the world
but the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
This is the one who came through water and blood, Jesus Christ,
not by water alone, but by water and blood.
The Spirit is the one that testifies,
and the Spirit is truth.
"us ?
Which faith community do you represent and what does your, it seems to me, irrational comment have to do with post 268 ? Is this some kind of attack against Jews, or are you targeting Gentiles ?
When this very same issue group came up in the early Church, regarding the gentile believers whom the Judaizers were trying to put under the law after they accepted Jesus as their Savior, what did the Jerusalem Church of Jewish believers write to the gentile believers?
Then wait not for dishonest ones; either.
We’re already weary of the dishonest answers.
It was the Protestant movement of England that would eventually become the United States of America.
Those 13 colonies were majority Protestant.
It was the Catholics that penetrated Latin America, Mexico and our country’s southwest area even BEFORE there was a United States of America.
Most of those Latin America countries are poor, homes to tyrannical despot leaders, communist party, invaded by the Chinese, and never risen to the level to the USA’s American exceptionalism.
Most of your W.A.S.P. nations prospered like the US UK Canada and Australia.
Do a study of White Anglo Saxon Protestant nations.
I do not disagree with your findings here...
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