Posted on 03/26/2015 5:03:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
Cuban leaf, I tend towards eternal punishment but agree with your global view of understanding Scripture. Like you, I listen to Scripture and find that literally hearing it read delivers me from the proof-text trap and opens up the whole letter/book. There is so much manipulation of God’s Word done by people who don’t even read the whole they quote from. I’ve done it. Don’t want to.
Using the Mother of Jesus as a fob is unacceptable, IMHO. I would not want my Mother’s memory used in such a sleazy fashion, would you? Sometimes my FRiend gets too wound up in the discussion. He would not consciously/intentionally insult someone’s Mother, but in his exuberance ...
Scripture says “eternal punishment”.
The atheists will be comforted with your agreement with them.
You touched on something I don’t talk about much. The listening rather than reading phenomenon. It’s like looking at a sculpture and then touching it. It changes your perspective. Especially listening in large blocks.
The atheists will be comforted with your agreement with them.
With Jesus' words in RED!
I agree completely.
Too much of a hassle to color text here for me. ;-)
You and I agree FAR MORE than we disagree.
Quite true; but I was NOT making a comment on what was being taught here; just the fact that whatever it was; some did NOT accept it.
They could have been prodigal, and still out on the road.
No way for them to take care of Mary.
I understand your point of view.
I am NOT using Jesus' mother, as you assert here.
I am USING the False Mary the Church in Rome has created.
Please direct your ire in the correct location.
I’m thinking anything will do if it supports their Mariolitry.
Then you'd better be able to CONTRIOL her memory after you are gone.
The 'church' kidnapped Jesus' mother and has abused her by endless myths.
It's simple...
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Quite true.
It says He had brothers and sisters.
Why don`t we change sides.
You say :it says nothing about Mary having any Children except Jesus: and I will say :it says Jesus had brothers and sisters:
be fun.
My Bible tells me that Adam and Eve were designed to live forever, and that there was no death before the fall.
Atheistic evolutionists would love to be able to claim that "By death came man." However, my understanding of the Creation story, and The Fall is that by man came death--through sin, of course--death to all living things.
Out of this we get that "death reigned on all"; not on "all (except Mary)"; no, "on all."
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
. . . For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) " (Rom 5:12-14 AV).
The Godhead told me that in His Holy Spirit's Bible, and I believe it.
OK, now it's your turn to tell me who gave you the idea that God would violate the law of death (even in the face of His gift of grace) that He imposed uniformly on mankind for the totality of Adam's descendants through binding up death into DNA, excepting none? Even Enoch and Elijah are going to have to die, sometime, AFIK.
(How you answer this is going to be interesting.)
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