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To: ealgeone; NYer

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>> “A believer is either saved or not.” <<

What is a believer, an intellectual believer like Satan and his demons? Or a true believer in the Hebrew disciple tradition, walking as his master walked, and doing his every commandment?

Nobody is saved until the day of Trumpets; that is what Yeshua and his apostles told us.
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160 posted on 03/28/2015 10:38:42 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
. >> “A believer is either saved or not.” <<

What is a believer, an intellectual believer like Satan and his demons? Or a true believer in the Hebrew disciple tradition, walking as his master walked, and doing his every commandment?

In this context we are talking about the person who is a true believer.

Nobody is saved until the day of Trumpets; that is what Yeshua and his apostles told us.

No. When a person becomes a Christian they are filled with the Holy Spirit who seals the believer (Eph 1:13-14). That is immediate and everlasting. There are no passages in the NT that ever indicate the Holy Spirit ever leaves a believer nor is the believer ever noted to be unsealed. Their sins are forgiven and covered (Col 2:13-14, Rom 4:7-8) The person's eternal security is secure at that point. John 3:15-18 make this clear.

161 posted on 03/28/2015 10:54:05 AM PDT by ealgeone
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