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Is God Angry Anymore?
Christian Communicators Worldwide ^ | 2013 | Jim Elliff

Posted on 03/22/2015 8:12:43 AM PDT by RnMomof7

Is God Angry Anymore?


When I was in public high school, we had to read part of a famous sermon called Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God, by Jonathan Edwards. He graphically pictured sinners as spiders dangling by a thread over the fire of Hell. He also asserted that God is angrier at this moment with some who are living than with others who are already in Hell.

Do you believe that? Is God angry? I don’t believe my teacher thought so. When I later studied the Bible on the subject, I was surprised by what I found.

I learned that God’s anger is pure. The biblical command, "Be angry and sin not" reminds us that there is an anger that is justified. God always has this kind of perfect, holy anger.

The Apostle Paul said, "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men…" Romans 1:18a

King David said, "God is a just judge, and God is angry with the wicked every day." Psalm 7:11 (NKJV) And the Apostle John said, "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on him." John 3:36

Note that these verses teach that God is not only angry with sin but also with the sinner. Since God sees everything (Hebrews 4:13), He evaluates perfectly. Whenever God is angry it is for holy reasons.

Sometimes we think of God as a judge sitting on the bench who passively issues sentences to guilty persons. But is God like this? The original words used for God’s anger are passionate words. Why? Because, unlike our court judges, God Himself has been sinned against.

Notice the emotion in Nahum 1, where God is identified as jealous, avenging and filled with wrath (verse 2). Verse 6 is even more pointed. "Who can withstand his indignation? Who can endure his fierce anger? His wrath is poured out like fire; the rocks are shattered before him."

However, even in the midst of His fury, God is self-controlled. The Bible teaches that He is slow to anger (Nahum 1:3), and most of us learned long ago that God is love. But while a loving God certainly is willing to hold off His judgment, it is just as certain that He will judge sin.

Romans 2:5-6 describes it this way: "But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God ‘will give to each person according to what he has done.’" In verse 16 of the same chapter it says that this will occur "on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares."

Why is God so angry? There are at least three reasons.

1. Because of the sheer number of your sins. If you were to sin only 10 times a day for one year, you would disobey God 3,650 times. But if you sinned 10 times a day for 15 years, you would sin 54,750 times! You are a professional sinner! Yet, how many times did Adam sin before he was cursed by God?

2. Because you have sinned against such an infinite God and high command. There are different levels of sin and punishment (Luke 10:12; 12:42-48). A crime is weighed according to the seriousness of the command and the stature of the person who is sinned against. It is one thing to disobey your coach at school. It is another thing to disobey a judge. It is one thing to turn in a late term paper. It is another thing to murder the president. The highest command is to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength." The greatest being is God. Each time you sin, you commit the highest crime against the greatest being! God ought to be angry.

3. Because you have sinned against God’s greatest act of love. Christ was sent into the world of men and women out of love (John 3:16). But many of your friends, and perhaps you also, have rejected Christ up to this very moment. This rebellion is a sin against compassion. Is it any wonder that God is angry with those who think little of His love?

How can you be rescued from this holy anger? Only through propitiation. But what does that mean?

The word "propitiation" (pro-pish-ee-ay-shun; sometimes translated, atonement) means this: Jesus fully satisfied the just anger of God for people like you by dying in your place, taking on himself all the wrath you deserve. We learn about this in Romans 3:24-25 and Hebrews 2:17. God’s just fury, indignation and anger for sins were poured out on Christ for every sinful person who will come to him by faith.

And that is great news!

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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

God is Love. His Mercy is a gift. We need to repent and ask for His Mercy. He will gladly give it. When we run from Him, THAT’S when all Hell breaks loose. This mess is our own doing, not God’s. He wants nothing for us but happiness. Loving God with heart, soul, mind and being, and neighbor as self would cure these ills.


21 posted on 03/22/2015 12:22:20 PM PDT by folkquest (I plan on being cranky for the next 4 years. Hope to crack a political smile at the midterms!)
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To: RnMomof7

Are you sure he ever was angry? That is a human emotion. Why would someone infinitely powerful get angry? If He is unchanging can He be angry? If He is in control of everything, what would He have to get angry about? Why would He not rather just be saddened?

Silly humans. You see through a glass darkly. And prophecy is similarly afflicted.


22 posted on 03/22/2015 12:29:30 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I agree completely.

And even in the OT, God is portrayed as a God of mercy.

Psalm 103 is probably the best portrayal of that.

I’m convinced that portraying God as an angry God does more to put people into the bondage of works and legalism than anything else.


23 posted on 03/22/2015 2:16:05 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ExSoldier
Wow, I can't believe I really did this. My first post from my phone!
24 posted on 03/22/2015 3:02:02 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ExSoldier

The post never came through,though. :-)

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25 posted on 03/22/2015 3:04:50 PM PDT by Mears (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."Voltaire))
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To: WriteOn

The priests, too, who approach the LORD must sanctify themselves; else he will vent his anger upon them. [EX 19:22]

The LORD repeated, “Go down now! Then come up again along with Aaron. But the priests and the people must not break through to come up to the LORD; else he will vent his anger upon them.” [EX 19:24]

Thus the LORD passed before him and cried out, “The LORD, the LORD, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger and rich in kindness and fidelity” [Taken from EX 34:6]

‘The LORD is slow to anger and rich in kindness, forgiving wickedness and crime; yet not declaring the guilty guiltless, but punishing children to the third and fourth generation for their fathers’ wickedness.’ [NUM 14:18]

So in his anger with the Israelites the LORD made them wander in the desert forty years, until the whole generation that had done evil in the sight of the LORD had died out. [NUM 32:13]

For I dreaded the fierce anger of the LORD against you: his wrath would destroy you. Yet once again the LORD listened to me. [DEUT 9:19]

In his furious wrath and tremendous anger the LORD uprooted them from their soil and cast them out into a strange land, where they are today. [Taken from DEUT 29:27]

At that time my anger will flare up against them; I will forsake them and hide my face from them, so that they will become a prey to be devoured, and many evils and troubles will befall them. At that time they will indeed say, ‘Is it not because our God is not among us that these evils have befallen us?’ [DEUT 31:17]

When the LORD saw this, he was filled with loathing and anger toward his sons and daughters. [DEUT 32:19]

If you transgress the covenant of the LORD, your God, which he enjoined on you, serve other gods and worship them, the anger of the LORD will flare up against you and you will quickly perish from the good land which he has given you. [JOSH 23:16]

The anger of the LORD flared up against Israel, and he delivered them over to plunderers who despoiled them. He allowed them to fall into the power of their enemies round about whom they were no longer able to withstand. [Taken from JUDG 2:14]

But the LORD was angry with Uzzah; God struck him on that spot, and he died there before God. [2SAM 6:7]

The LORD, therefore, became angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice [1KGS 11:9]

Because of the sins Jeroboam committed and caused Israel to commit, by which he provoked the LORD, the God of Israel, to anger. [Taken from 1KGS 15:30]

Because he had humbled himself, the anger of the LORD turned from him so that it did not destroy him completely; and in Judah, moreover, good deeds were found. [2CHRON 12:12]

Be not obstinate, as your fathers were; extend your hands to the LORD and come to his sanctuary that he has consecrated forever, and serve the LORD, your God, that he may turn away his burning anger from you. [2CHRON 30:8]

On behalf of myself and those who are left in Israel and Judah, go, consult the LORD concerning the words of the book that has been found. For the anger of the LORD has been set furiously ablaze against us, since our fathers have not kept the word of the LORD and have not done all that is written in this book. [2CHRON 34:21]

Because they have abandoned me and have offered incense to other gods, provoking me by every deed that they have performed, my anger is ablaze against this place and cannot be extinguished. [2CHRON 34:25]

But they mocked the messengers of God, despised his warnings, and scoffed at his prophets, until the anger of the LORD against his people was so inflamed that there was no remedy. [2CHRON 36:16]

They refused to obey and no longer remembered the miracles you had worked for them. They stiffened their necks and turned their heads to return to their slavery in Egypt. But you are a God of pardons, gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and rich in mercy; you did not forsake them. [NEH 9:17]

You cannot plumb the depths of the human heart or grasp the workings of the human mind; how then can you fathom God, who has made all these things, discern his mind, and understand his plan? No, my brothers, do not anger the Lord our God. [JDTH 8:14]

Therefore, the Place itself, having shared in the people’s misfortunes, afterward participated in their good fortune; and what the Almighty had forsaken in his anger was restored in all its glory, once the great Sovereign became reconciled. [2MACC 5:20]

He removes the mountains before they know it; he overturns them in his anger. [JOB 9:5]

So that you turn your anger against God and let such words escape your mouth! [JOB 15:13]

You who tear yourself in your anger, shall the earth be neglected on your account (or the rock be moved out of its place)? [JOB 18:4]

The flood shall sweep away his house with the waters that run off in the day of God’s anger. [JOB 20:28]

How often is the lamp of the wicked put out? How often does destruction come upon them, the portion he allots in his anger? [JOB 21:17]

With his angry breath he scatters the waters, and he hurls the lightning against them relentlessly; His hand pierces the fugitive dragon as from his hand it strives to flee. [JOB 26:13]

But now that you have done otherwise, God’s anger punishes, nor does he show concern that a man will die. [JOB 35:15]

The impious in heart lay up anger for themselves; they cry not for help when he enchains them; Therefore they expire in youth, and perish among the reprobate. [JOB 36:13-14]

Serve the LORD with fear; with trembling bow down in homage, Lest God be angry and you perish from the way in a sudden blaze of anger. Happy are all who take refuge in God! [PS 2:11]

Do not reprove me in your anger, LORD, nor punish me in your wrath. [PS 6:2]

Rise up, LORD, in your anger; rise against the fury of my foes. Wake to judge as you have decreed. [PS 7:7]

God is a just judge, who rebukes in anger every day. [PS 7:12]

At the time of your coming you will drive them into a furnace. Then the LORD’S anger will consume them, devour them with fire. [PS 21:10]

Do not hide your face from me; do not repel your servant in anger. You are my help; do not cast me off; do not forsake me, God my savior! [PS 27:9]

For divine anger lasts but a moment; divine favor lasts a lifetime. At dusk weeping comes for the night; but at dawn there is rejoicing. [PS 30:6]

Give up your anger, abandon your wrath; do not be provoked; it brings only harm. [PS 37:8]

LORD, punish me no more in your anger; in your wrath do not chastise me! [PS 38:2]

My flesh is afflicted because of your anger; my frame aches because of my sin. [PS 38:4]

O God, you rejected us, broke our defenses; you were angry but now revive us. [PS 60:3]

Why, God, have you cast us off forever? Why does your anger burn against the sheep of your pasture? [Taken from PS 74:1]

So terrible and awesome are you; who can stand before you and your great anger? [PS 76:8]

But God is merciful and forgave their sin; he did not utterly destroy them. Time and again he turned back his anger, unwilling to unleash all his rage. [PS 78:38]

LORD of hosts, how long will you burn with anger while your people pray? [PS 80:5]

You withdrew all your wrath, turned back your burning anger. [PS 85:4]

But you, Lord, are a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger, most loving and true. [PS 86:15]

Truly we are consumed by your anger, filled with terror by your wrath. [PS 90:7]

Who comprehends your terrible anger? Your wrath matches the fear it inspires. [PS 90:11]

Therefore I swore in my anger: “They shall never enter my rest.” [PS 95:11]

Merciful and gracious is the LORD, slow to anger, abounding in kindness. God does not always rebuke, nurses no lasting anger, Has not dealt with us as our sins merit, nor requited us as our deeds deserve. [PS 103:8-10]

He would have decreed their destruction, had not Moses, the chosen leader, Withstood him in the breach to turn back his destroying anger. [PS 106:23]

So the LORD grew angry with his people, abhorred his own heritage. [PS 106:40]

The LORD is gracious and merciful, slow to anger and abounding in love. [PS 145:8]

The fool immediately shows his anger, but the shrewd man passes over an insult. [PROV 12:16]

A mild answer calms wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. [PROV 15:1]

It is good sense in a man to be slow to anger, and it is his glory to overlook an offense. [PROV 19:11]

A secret gift allays anger, and a concealed present, violent wrath. [PROV 21:14]

The mouth of the adulteress is a deep pit; he with whom the LORD is angry will fall into it. [PROV 22:14]

The fool gives vent to all his anger; but by biding his time, the wise man calms it. [PROV 29:11]

For the stirring of milk brings forth curds, and the stirring of anger brings forth blood. [PROV 30:33]

Should the anger of the ruler burst upon you, forsake not your place; for mildness abates great offenses. [ECCL 10:4]

But you, our God, are good and true, slow to anger, and governing all with mercy. [WISDOM 15:1]

One cannot justify unjust anger; anger plunges a man to his downfall. [SIRACH 1:19]

A hungry man grieve not, a needy man anger not [SIRACH 4:2]

For mercy and anger alike are with him; upon the wicked alights his wrath. [SIRACH 5:7]

Insolence is not allotted to a man, nor stubborn anger to one born of woman. [SIRACH 10:18]

And had there been but one stiffnecked man, it were a wonder had he gone unpunished. For mercy and anger alike are with him who remits and forgives, though on the wicked alights his wrath. [SIRACH 16:11]

A drunken wife arouses great anger, for she does not hide her shame. [SIRACH 26:8]

Wrath and anger are hateful things, yet the sinner hugs them tight. [SIRACH 27:30]

Should a man nourish anger against his fellows and expect healing from the LORD? [SIRACH 28:3]

The more wood, the greater the fire, the more underlying it, the fiercer the fight; The greater a man’s strength, the sterner his anger, the greater his power, the greater his wrath. [SIRACH 28:10]

Envy and anger shorten one’s life, worry brings on premature old age. [SIRACH 30:24]

For only a brief moment more, and my anger shall be over; but them I will destroy in wrath. [ISA 10:25]

The LORD shall dry up the tongue of the Sea of Egypt, and wave his hand over the Euphrates in his fierce anger And shatter it into seven streamlets, so that it can be crossed in sandals. [ISA 11:15]

On that day, you will say: I give you thanks, O LORD; though you have been angry with me, your anger has abated, and you have consoled me. [ISA 12:1]

Lo, the day of the LORD comes, cruel, with wrath and burning anger; To lay waste the land and destroy the sinners within it! [ISA 13:9]

For this I will make the heavens tremble and the earth shall be shaken from its place, At the wrath of the LORD of hosts on the day of his burning anger. [ISA 13:13]

Yes, all shall be put to shame and disgrace who vent their anger against you; Those shall perish and come to nought who offer resistance. [ISA 41:11]

I will not accuse forever, nor always be angry; For their spirits would faint before me, the souls that I have made. [ISA 57:16]

Be not so very angry, LORD, keep not our guilt forever in mind; look upon us, who are all your people. [ISA 64:8]

Yet withal you say, “I am innocent; at least, his anger is turned away from me.” Behold, I will judge you on that word of yours, “I have not sinned.” [JER 2:35]

Go, proclaim these words toward the north, and say: Return, rebel Israel, says the LORD, I will not remain angry with you; For I am merciful, says the LORD, I will not continue my wrath forever. [JER 3:12]

The LORD is true God, he is the living God, the eternal King, Before whose anger the earth quakes, whose wrath the nations cannot endure [JER 10:10]

Punish us, O LORD, but with equity, not in anger, lest you have us dwindle away. [JER 10:24]

The anger of the LORD shall not abate until he has done and fulfilled what he has determined in his heart. When the time comes, you shall fully understand. [JER 23:20]

You have brought your wrath and anger down upon us, as you had warned us through your servants the prophets [BARUCH 2:20]

My children, bear patiently the anger that has come from God upon you; Your enemies have persecuted you, and you will soon see their destruction and trample upon their necks. [BARUCH 4:25]

Thus shall my anger spend itself, and I will wreak my fury upon them till I am appeased; they shall know that I, the LORD, have spoken in my jealousy when I spend my fury upon them. [EZEK 5:13]

Now the end is upon you; I will unleash my anger against you and judge you according to your conduct and lay upon you the consequences of all your abominations. [EZEK 7:3]

Therefore, as I live, says the Lord GOD, I will deal with you according to your anger and your envy which you have exercised (in your hatred) against them. I will make myself known among you when I judge you [Taken from EZEK 35:11]

Rend your hearts, not your garments, and return to the LORD, your God. For gracious and merciful is he, slow to anger, rich in kindness, and relenting in punishment. [JOEL 2:13]

I will wreak vengeance in anger and wrath upon the nations that have not hearkened. [MICAH 5:14]

Who is there like you, the God who removes guilt and pardons sin for the remnant of his inheritance; Who does not persist in anger forever, but delights rather in clemency [MICAH 7:18]

A jealous and avenging God is the LORD, an avenger is the LORD, and angry; The LORD brings vengeance on his adversaries, and lays up wrath for his enemies; The LORD is slow to anger, yet great in power, and the LORD never leaves the guilty unpunished. In hurricane and tempest is his path, and clouds are the dust at his feet [NAHUM 1:2-3]

Before his wrath, who can stand firm, and who can face his blazing anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are rent asunder before him. [NAHUM 1:6]

Seek the LORD, all you humble of the earth, who have observed his law; Seek justice, seek humility; perhaps you may be sheltered on the day of the LORD’S anger. [ZEPH 2:3]

Therefore, wait for me, says the LORD, against the day when I arise as accuser; For it is my decision to gather together the nations, to assemble the kingdoms, In order to pour out upon them my wrath, all my blazing anger; For in the fire of my jealousy shall all the earth be consumed. [ZEPH 3:8]

If Edom says, “We have been crushed but we will rebuild the ruins,” Thus says the LORD of hosts: They indeed may build, but I will tear down, And they shall be called the land of guilt, the people with whom the LORD is angry forever. [MAL 1:4]

But I say to you, whoever is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment, and whoever says to his brother, ‘Raqa,’ will be answerable to the Sanhedrin, and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ will be liable to fiery Gehenna. [MT 5:22]

Or are we provoking the Lord to jealous anger? Are we stronger than he? [1COR 10:22]

Be angry but do not sin; do not let the sun set on your anger, and do not leave room for the devil. [EPH 4:26-27]

All bitterness, fury, anger, shouting, and reviling must be removed from you, along with all malice. [EPH 4:31]

Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up with the training and instruction of the Lord. [EPH 6:4]

But now you must put them all away: anger, fury, malice, slander, and obscene language out of your mouths. [COL 3:8]

It is my wish, then, that in every place the men should pray, lifting up holy hands, without anger or argument. [1TM 2:8]


26 posted on 03/22/2015 4:39:31 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free; metmom
FIrst, only the Old Testament is filled with examples of an angry God. That angry God is completely missing from the New Testament.

Really?? As we approach Holy week...read the plea of Christ that the cup (of Gods wrath) be removed from Him.. look at the wrath of God poured out on Christ on that cross.. The cross vindicated the righteousness of God...

The wrath of God is a holy wrath.. Rom 1:18 For God's anger is being revealed from Heaven against all impiety and against the iniquity of men who through iniquity suppress the truth. God is angry.

Holy wrath is an attribute of God, that is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.. Rev 19:15 Out of his mouth there comes a sharp sword with which to strike the nations... He will tread the winepress of the furious wrath of God the Almighty.

The NT shows the anger of God through the words and actions of Christ.. Luke 12:49 [Jesus:] "I came to cast fire upon the earth; and would that it were already kindled!"

My friend man is either a trophy of Gods grace or to object of His wrath...there is no 3rd position

27 posted on 03/22/2015 4:52:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: ExSoldier
Wow, I can't believe I really did this. My first post from my phone!

I almost exclusively use my IPhone 6. It's kind of fun isn't it?

28 posted on 03/22/2015 5:52:39 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered, all it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage)
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To: RnMomof7

Is God Angry Anymore?

Golly...

...I wonder...




Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

29 posted on 03/22/2015 6:09:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
I almost exclusively use my IPhone 6.

I wouldn't know how to use all my reference material that resides on my computer.

30 posted on 03/22/2015 6:10:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“That angry God is completely missing from the New Testament.”

Don’t tell that to the men forced out of the Temple when Jesus kicked their butts...


31 posted on 03/22/2015 6:15:51 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Elsie
I wouldn't know how to use all my reference material that resides on my computer.

You have a lot more ref material on your computer than I do, but I like to use my iPhone 6. I can put out all kinds of little faces and stuff.

:-)

32 posted on 03/22/2015 6:16:24 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered, all it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage)
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To: Mears
Maybe you can't see it, but I can from both phone and home computer.
33 posted on 03/22/2015 11:12:46 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: ExSoldier

I was joshing——of course I could see it—I responded to it.

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34 posted on 03/23/2015 9:34:08 AM PDT by Mears (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."Voltaire))
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To: Mears
I'm a public school teacher just barely made it to Spring Break (started today) and as such I'm already DAIN BRAMAGED and fairly burned out. At this point in the school year, all I have to make it through to summer is the Grace of God. Seriously. I take everything literally these days.... so "josh not" please!
35 posted on 03/23/2015 11:19:18 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: folkquest

God is love. We should be loving each other not fighting each other. It is sad to see.


36 posted on 03/24/2015 7:40:15 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: metmom

Thanks. I don’t seem to have the popular opinion.


37 posted on 03/24/2015 7:41:15 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Mr Rogers

The God of the old Testament would have then torched the town and left no survivors. Notice how Christ of the New Testament simply drives the men out of the temple without actually killing or maiming anybody.

The God of the New Testament is not the angry, vindictive God of the Old Testament. The difference is night and day, and I for one am grateful for it.

Does that mean I do not fear God. I do. He is the maker of all things and from him all things come. I do fear him. But I do not see the angry, vindictive person who so often acts in the Old Testament.

The difference is night and day.


38 posted on 03/24/2015 7:44:39 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

FIrst, only the Old Testament is filled with examples of an angry God. That angry God is completely missing from the New Testament.


So what do you do with “He is the same yesterday as today and never changes”?

It is just that our ears do not like to hear it.

Our world does not understand wrath and anger. It is only when we understand that that we begin to understand mercy and love.


39 posted on 03/24/2015 7:54:18 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: RnMomof7

Note that these verses teach that God is not only angry with sin but also with the sinner.


Now that is quite a contrast to hate the sin and love the sinner we are taught today. Which by the way is a quote from Ghandi, not the Bible.


40 posted on 03/24/2015 7:56:14 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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