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Sad. Former SSPX Bp. Williamson consecrates a bishop. Both now excommunicated (Catholic)
WDTPRS ^ | March 19, 2015 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 03/20/2015 2:38:10 PM PDT by NYer

Former SSPX Bp. Williamson consecrated another bishop. They both have incurred the late sententiae excommunication foreseen in Canon Law.

The SSPX issued an official statement HERE:

On March 19, 2015, Bishop Richard Williamson performed the episcopal consecration of Fr. Jean-Michel Faure at the Benedictine Monastery of the Holy Cross in Nova Friburgo, Brazil.

Bishop Williamson and Fr. Faure have not been members of the Society of St. Pius X since 2012 and 2014, respectively, [NB] because of their violent criticisms of any relations with the Roman authorities. According to them, such contacts were incompatible with the apostolic work of Archbishop Lefebvre. [I suspect that Lefebvre would be horrified.]

The Society of St. Pius X regrets sincerely that this spirit of opposition has led to an episcopal consecration. [May the come soon to regret other spirits of opposition.] In 1988 Archbishop Lefebvre had clearly indicated his intention to consecrate auxiliary bishops [NB] who would have no jurisdiction, because of the state of necessity in which the Society of St. Pius X and faithful Catholics found themselves at that time. His sole goal was to make available to the faithful the sacraments which priests ordained by the bishops would offer.  [There is no question that Holy Orders, Mass and baptisms and confirmations are valid.] After having done everything conceivable to gain permission from the Holy See, Archbishop Lefebvre proceeded with the solemn consecrations on June 30, 1988 before several thousand priests and faithful and hundreds of journalists from around the world. It was abundantly clear from all the circumstances that, despite the lack of authorization from Rome, this action done in the most public manner was for the good of the Church and of souls. [It was not abundantly clear… but read on.]

The Society of St. Pius X denounces this episcopal consecration of Fr. Faure, which, despite the assertions of both clerics concerned, is not at all comparable to the consecrations of 1988. [True.] All the declarations of Bishop Williamson and Fr. Faure prove abundantly that they no longer recognize the Roman authorities, except in a purely rhetorical manner.  [Like admitting that Francis is indeed Pope, and then not submitting to his authority?  Say his name in the Roman Canon and put a photo up?  What do they do, exactly?]

The Society of St. Pius X still maintains that the present state of necessity renders legitimate its action throughout the world, without denying the legitimate authority of those for whom it continues to pray at every Mass. [The Roman Pontiff and, I suppose, the local bishop.  I wonder: Do the priests of the SSPX include the name of the local diocesan bishop in the Canon during Mass?] The Society intends to continue its work of priestly formation according to its statutes. It has every intention to keep the deposit of the Faith and the purity of the Church’s moral teaching, in opposition to errors, from wherever they may come, in order to pass on such Faith and morals in the traditional liturgy and by preaching, in accordance with the missionary spirit of its founder: Credidimus caritati [1 John 4:16].

Menzingen, March 19, 2015

I pray that Williamson and the other fellow will be reconciled before they die.


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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: ebb tide

“Good. You’ve admitted you have been asking stupid questions.”

Nope. I just leave that to you.


42 posted on 03/22/2015 11:26:20 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Sorry, Bub. You can’t take back your posting history: stupid.


43 posted on 03/22/2015 12:01:29 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome: Pope Francenstein.)
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To: ebb tide

“Sorry, Bub. You can’t take back your posting history: stupid.”

I don’t have to take back anything. Nothing I posted was stupid.


44 posted on 03/22/2015 12:07:17 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Vlad asks, “So now the Catholic Church is a “Gang”? Or do you mean the College of Cardinals is a Gang?”


45 posted on 03/22/2015 12:10:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome: Pope Francenstein.)
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To: ebb tide

ebb tide had written: “If you disagree, why is Marx is still in the Pope’s “Gang”?”

Thus, my question was a perfectly good one, of course.


46 posted on 03/22/2015 12:19:49 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

More stupid statements:

“So now the Catholic Church is a “Gang”? Or do you mean the College of Cardinals is a Gang?”

” Again, do you know what a schism is?” (You asked this numerous times. I don’t answer stupid questions).

“Ask your husband.” (Where in heck did that oddball statement come from?)

“Even though your portray yourself as a Catholic Traditionalist there is probably no way you will ever know as much as I do about the Catholic Church, its traditions or the Traditional movement within the Catholic Church. And that too must be galling.” (Not only juvenile, but sinfully prideful.)

“A photo from your family album?”


47 posted on 03/22/2015 12:40:50 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome: Pope Francenstein.)
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To: ebb tide

“More stupid statements”

None were stupid at all.

“You asked this numerous times. I don’t answer stupid questions”

Not “don’t”. It’s “can’t”. That was obvious all along. That was the point.

“Where in heck did that oddball statement come from?”

Nothing odd about it at all.

“Not only juvenile, but sinfully prideful.”

Not only was it not juvenile, but it was absolutely correct in every way. And you keep proving that too.

Don’t post (family?) photos if you don’t want comments about them.


48 posted on 03/22/2015 1:23:28 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Forgive the pun, but to unabashedly repeat the sin of pride is not something to be proud of.

Whatever you may think, you have absolutely no knowledge of my Catholicism. To claim you do, is bearing false witness (another sin).

From today’s Gospel:

“He that is of God heareth the words of God. Therefore you hear them not because you are not of God.”

Finally, I know that petulant teenagers always have to have to last word; so have at it, Vlad. You get the last word on this thread, at least with me.


49 posted on 03/22/2015 4:35:21 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

“Forgive the pun, but to unabashedly repeat the sin of pride is not something to be proud of.”

Then don’t be proud.

“Whatever you may think, you have absolutely no knowledge of my Catholicism. To claim you do, is bearing false witness (another sin).”

Actually, no. What you post says a great deal. The errors and the misrepresentations, for instance, speak volumes.

“From today’s Gospel: “He that is of God heareth the words of God. Therefore you hear them not because you are not of God.”

In your false attack on me the previous verse is much more appropriate. I’ll let you look it up. I think it is also telling that you quote today’s gospel - from a Mass which has the Judica Me only as the Introit. How appropriate when one thinks of what you post.

“Finally, I know that petulant teenagers always have to have to last word; so have at it, Vlad. You get the last word on this thread, at least with me.”

In any case, I would have had the last truthful word.


50 posted on 03/22/2015 5:27:45 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Given some of the bizarre statements coming out of Rome lately, it seems that Tradition is the only safe harbor for Catholics.


51 posted on 03/25/2015 2:59:59 PM PDT by chud
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To: Impy

see what it is like in Traddie-land, which now appears to be my vacation destination.

It’s a mystery. I don’t know how the Traddies deal with the knuckleheads that they attract, like the fart that lectured me at Latin Mass on Palm Sunday because I wasn’t a cynic like him explaining to me that no Christian should be voting in today’s America. Nobody is worth a vote.

Maybe I should become anti-social.


52 posted on 03/31/2015 7:39:21 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (-Connecticut Republicanism is a mental disorder. - Ann C.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Well, humans are dirty garbage animals.


53 posted on 03/31/2015 8:02:14 AM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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