Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand

Proclaiming the Gospel ^ | March 18,2015 | Mike Gendron

[Resettozero]

Once again, I am through dealing with this obnoxious thread that only continues to get more so

Other than implying the RCC, among many other institutions and organizations called churches, is a Christian cult...other than that, was it something else that was posted? If so, which post(s), and why?

[Resettozero]

Calvinism and Arminianism doesn't pertain to salvation?

Not your concern.

[D-fendr]

Philip used only the Book of Isaiah to convince the eunuch.

Are you saying the OT scripture "is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine” ?

[D-fendr]

Pro_4:2 For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law (Torah).

Are you saying the Torah "is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine” ?

[D-fendr]

Not your concern.

If Calvinism vs Arminianism pertain to salvation it's a valid rebuttal. Do you believe they don't?

[Resettozero]

Are you saying the OT scripture "is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine” ?

It was for Jesus of Nazareth.

[Resettozero]

If Calvinism vs Arminianism pertain to salvation it's a valid rebuttal. Do you believe they don't?

You're a FRoman Catholic. Your doctrine is set for you. These other teachings should not concern you or your church any longer.

Let me simplify: Lord Jesus Christ is my Savior...my only salvation from my having to repay my own sin-debt, which I cannot, and my salvation from the second death.

[editor-surveyor]

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“closure with all its results” would make the word of God a lie.

The “end” as in the “design purpose” is the only take that fits the word.

There is much left to be fulfilled, as described in Purim, the Fall Feasts, and “The Last Great Day.”

[pgyanke]

I don’t question my faith not at all.

I question some of the Church’s misguided policies regarding compulsory clerical celibacy. A policy enacted by the First Lateran Council in 1123-—centuries after the founding of the Church.

I just proved beyond a shadow of ANY doubt that clerical marriage is permissible-—directly from St. Paul.

Excuse me. This is questioning your faith. I don't mean it so sound like anything nefarious. You don't recognize the authority of the Church to govern the faithful. As a Catholic, it should be incumbent upon you to learn what you are missing.

[D-fendr]

It was for Jesus of Nazareth.

Where to begin... He corrected those sola scriptura folks of his day and there's a bit added to the extant scripture of His time - the New Testament.

But I'll still grant a caveat: If you're Jesus Christ, sola scriptura is ok.

:)

[Resettozero]

As a Catholic, it should be incumbent upon you to learn what you are missing.

FRoman Catholics espouse different positions on different RCC teachings. What makes your individual belief better (more accurate) than another RC FReeper's?

[D-fendr]

These other teachings should not concern you or your church any longer.

If you follow your advice, the teachings of my church should not concern you.

We're debating, at least I am, the merits of these other teachings.

[Resettozero]

But I'll still grant a caveat: If you're Jesus Christ, sola scriptura is ok. :)

Then, you are not far from become a believer in Christ and are not far from the kingdom of Heaven.

[CynicalBear]

>>Paul’s views regarding those in service of the Church:<<

And given that Paul was writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit those would be the directives of God himself not just Paul.

[CynicalBear]

>>Calvinism and Arminianism doesn't pertain to salvation?<<

Which part of those would affect salvation?

[D-fendr]

Well, thank you very little.

[D-fendr]

http://goo.gl/GDwLZ2

[CynicalBear]

It was talking about the laws, not prophecy.

[Trapped Behind Enemy Lines]

Excuse me. No!

When you say questioning my faith-—that sounds as if I question God or Jesus or what is written in the Bible, especially the Gospels and the Bible. I don’t question any of that. I think you can belong to an organization such a church and you don’t have to agree with absolutely every last policy. I’m a lifelong Republican, but that doesn’t mean I march in lockstep with every whim of the Party leadership. Ditto with the Church. BTW-—no less than Pope Francis himself is on record stating that compulsory clerical celibacy is a discipline of the Church, not a dogma or doctrine of the Church and has further stated that the policy is always subject change. So if you are going to excommunicate me, excommunicate the Pope because I think he is absolutely correct in his analysis of this policy.

Further, I stated in FULL CONTEXT the qualifications required for service in the priesthood by no less than St. Paul himself. So I’m the one in agreement with Pope Francis and St. Paul-—and I am branded questioning my faith.

[CynicalBear]

I see nothing there that reflects on salvation. Just a dispute on sideline issues. Both believe in salvation through faith alone in Jesus alone. What beliefs do they hold that you determine affects salvation?