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Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand
Proclaiming the Gospel ^ | March 18,2015 | Mike Gendron

Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: pgyanke; CynicalBear
I gave Scripture citations for my argument. Will you please do the same?

Would giving the citation again on this FR thread be enough to change your mind and for you to come out of her?
281 posted on 03/19/2015 12:08:27 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: verga
No actually Trent FORBIDS you from owning or reading a poorly translated version of the bible.

Be a good boy and find these words for me.

282 posted on 03/19/2015 12:09:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pgyanke
Salvation history doesn't lend itself to slogans very well.

Ha ha HA!!

Sola Script... ring a bell?

How about all of your endless HAIL Marys???

283 posted on 03/19/2015 12:10:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

Will NO one rid me of this meddlesome pest!!!


284 posted on 03/19/2015 12:10:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero; D-fendr
Pro_4:2 For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law (Torah).

285 posted on 03/19/2015 12:12:39 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Regal; terycarl
Wisdom from the dimwits who gave us Jim and Tammy Baker, Jimmy Swaggart and snake handling. I don’t thin so.

Really??


Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

286 posted on 03/19/2015 12:12:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pgyanke; Resettozero
>>I gave Scripture citations for my argument. Will you please do the same?<<

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

287 posted on 03/19/2015 12:15:26 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: D-fendr
Because “”Scripture is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine” is not in Holy Scripture.

Strange.

Philip used only the Book of Isaiah to convince the eunuch.

(I wonder what OTHER words he used as well?)

Oh well; they evidently were NOT unique enough to BE RECORDED!

288 posted on 03/19/2015 12:16:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pgyanke

Bye...


289 posted on 03/19/2015 12:17:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero

We found out how to run ONE of them off!


290 posted on 03/19/2015 12:18:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero

I don’t think he’s gonna reply.


291 posted on 03/19/2015 12:18:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pgyanke

I thought you wuz leavin’??


292 posted on 03/19/2015 12:19:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

Thanks for that. I think it is now instructive to put the whole thing in context, Paul’s views regarding those in service of the Church:

“This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous, one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?), not a novice, lest being puffed up with a pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. Moreover, he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil”

1 Timothy 3:1-7

There you have it: The full job description for service in the clergy of the Church. Right there from St. Paul in the New Testament. It doesn’t get any clearer than this. Clearly marriage and children are permissible for those in service of the Church. I cannot make it any more clear than this. I don’t know why others insist on obfuscating the truth.


293 posted on 03/19/2015 12:28:34 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Elsie

Sure. Insults and invective work every time they’re tried. BTW, you should ping someone when talking about them.


294 posted on 03/19/2015 12:29:59 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
BTW, you should ping someone when talking about them.

Only if mentioned by username. (You RCs are keen on making extra rules for everyone else to follow.)
295 posted on 03/19/2015 12:31:39 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Elsie; Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I thought you wuz leavin’??

TBEL called me back. I'm here to talk to a fellow Catholic who has questions on his faith. While I'm here, I will answer what I choose to.

296 posted on 03/19/2015 12:31:45 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke
While I'm here, I will answer what I choose to

As is your American right, by the Grace of God, and with the site operator's permission.
297 posted on 03/19/2015 12:34:09 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero; Elsie; Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Only if mentioned by username.

As you have so clearly demonstrated, courtesy is not part of your general routine. BTW, I looked back on what I misquoted and you are correct, I did. Sorry about that. Too much typing and I mistyped your first word. It isn't my intent to mislead or misquote.

Once again, I am through dealing with this obnoxious thread that only continues to get more so. If I return, it won't be for either of you, it will be for TBEL.

Good day and may God bless you.

298 posted on 03/19/2015 12:35:47 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke

Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don’t question my faith not at all.

I question some of the Church’s misguided policies regarding compulsory clerical celibacy. A policy enacted by the First Lateran Council in 1123-—centuries after the founding of the Church.

I just proved beyond a shadow of ANY doubt that clerical marriage is permissible-—directly from St. Paul.


299 posted on 03/19/2015 12:38:08 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: CynicalBear
Because it doesn't affect or pertain to salvation.

Calvinism and Arminianism doesn't pertain to salvation?

300 posted on 03/19/2015 12:40:17 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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