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Latin Mass to be Offered to Mark Reinterment of Richard III
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 3/4/15 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 03/05/2015 5:43:37 AM PST by marshmallow

A Requiem Mass in the traditional Latin form will be offered at a Lancashire church on the same day the king's remains are reinterred in Leicester

A Requiem Mass in the traditional Latin form is to be offered at a Catholic church in Lancashire to mark the reinterment of King Richard III, which will take place on the same day at Leicester’s Anglican cathedral.

The mortal remains of Richard III, who died in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485, before the Reformation, will be reinterred in the cathedral on March 26, in the presence of the Archbishop of Canterbury and an invited congregation.

The Requiem Mass for the repose of Richard III’s soul will be held on the same day St Catherine’s Church, in Leyland, Lancashire, at 7.30pm. It will be a Sung High Latin Mass with singers from the Laeta Cantoribus Choir, “in the style and manner of (Richard III’s) day”.

“The idea is that it will be closer to what he might have experienced in his own lifetime, as a pre-reformation Catholic,” said parish priest Fr Simon Henry.

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1 posted on 03/05/2015 5:43:37 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

The fight is still on, though, to have his remains taken to a Catholic church the night before the interment where he can lie in state. He needs to be out of the large shoebox with the tea kettle on top.


2 posted on 03/05/2015 5:45:52 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: marshmallow
There has been a subtle effort to rehabilitate Richard III's legacy in the past few decades, to transform him from the malformed monster of Shakespeare's play to a benevolent victim -- even a champion -- of righteousness and Yorkist legitimacy. Witness Phillipa Gregory's "White Queen" series, which is dubious as history but compelling fiction nonetheless.

I don't know how well it's working, but the War of the Roses continues to fascinate audiences.

3 posted on 03/05/2015 5:50:29 AM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack

Thomas More uncovered the history that Shakespeare used in order to write his play. So, the information is based on the truth and yeah he was a snake.


4 posted on 03/05/2015 5:57:02 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: Slyfox

With due respect to St. Thomas (who’s a favorite of mine; I have a son named after him) — his employer was the son of the man whose soldiers killed Richard III. I don’t know that he’s the most objective source in this particular matter.


5 posted on 03/05/2015 6:03:08 AM PST by Campion
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To: Campion

Still, he wrote the history from which Shakespeare wrote his play.


6 posted on 03/05/2015 6:04:41 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: marshmallow

The Mass that Richard III knew was the Sarum Rite, though, which is certainly related to the Mass of St. Pius V, but not exactly the same.


7 posted on 03/05/2015 6:04:59 AM PST by Campion
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To: marshmallow

Why Lancashire? I thought Richard was from the House of York.


8 posted on 03/05/2015 6:07:05 AM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: Campion

“The Mass that Richard III knew was the Sarum Rite, though, which is certainly related to the Mass of St. Pius V, but not exactly the same”

Good catch! The Sarum rite is quite beautiful.


9 posted on 03/05/2015 6:08:38 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Slyfox
Thomas More's account of Richard III's life was written well after the king's death, and was based on a lot of hearsay and notions popular at the time, and likely colored by More's desire to please his Tudor king, just as Shakespeare was cautious to characterize Richard in a way that satisfied his monarch, also a Tudor. There is no reason to believe that More's account is any more historically accurate than others except for its relative temporal proximity and the legendary integrity of its author.

But by all accounts, Richard and his wife, Anne Neville, were treacherous and even murderous. While it may never be proven that Richard directly ordered the murder of Edward and Richard Plantagenet (the Princes in the Tower), no one stood as much to gain by their deaths as he. Whether he was the actual murderer, its director, or simply a beneficiary, he obviously failed in his promise to King Edward IV to act as Lord Protector.

It is a fair certainty that Richard's brother George, the Duke of Clarence, was not only treasonous but mad.

10 posted on 03/05/2015 6:11:26 AM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack

Still, he wrote the history from which Shakespeare wrote his play.


11 posted on 03/05/2015 6:15:34 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: IronJack

I still think it would have been neat to attend this. Witnessing history.


12 posted on 03/05/2015 6:20:35 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: IronJack

I wouldn’t base my info on either More or The White Queen - one of the tackiest shows to come out of the BBC in many years.

Remember, More wrote that Richard was two years in his mother’s womb and was born with hair down to his shoulders and a full set of teeth, lol. He supposedly had a withered arm but of course the remains show perfectly formed arms. More was a page to Cardinal Morton who was responsible for several plots against Richard - including the Buckingham and Tudor schemes. The last one worked.

Anne Neville is almost unknown to history. We have no idea what she was like or what she did - The White Queen made all that up. All we know is that she knew Richard from childhood and married him after her first awful husband was killed in battle.

George was a drunk, mostly. Like Richard and Edward, quite brilliant, but unstable. There’s no evidence he was mad, though.

FOR NEW YORK RICARDIANS: I have arranged a memorial Mass for Richard at St. Jean Baptiste Church, 5:30pm, March 26th. The church is at the corner of Lex and 76th. This is the day of his interment.


13 posted on 03/05/2015 6:23:05 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Timocrat

Weirdly, the house of York was located in the south and the House of Lancaster controlled the north. Lancashire just decided to have this Mass - there is one scheduled in Leicester as well. I think York Cathedral is having evensong - pretty paultry for a guy who brought economic stability to the region for several generations.


14 posted on 03/05/2015 6:36:53 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: Slyfox

Shakespeare’s other sources may have included Holinshed, Ovid, Spenser and Kyd.


15 posted on 03/05/2015 7:02:38 AM PST by onedoug
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Yes. Shakespeare had many influences, but people tend to not know how well thought of More's writings were to Shakespeare's generation.

When Mary I was queen, More's son-in-law had a number of More's writings printed up. The people who purchased those copies were all of the Catholic families who ended up being the resistance leaders during Elizabeth's reign. Shakespeare spent time tutoring in the north of England and had access to the man's library which had More's writings available.

Later he and a number of playwrights collaborated on a play about Thomas More. Study of the play show the different writer's contributions. I think Shakespeare took a chapter or two of the play. The censors really went over it scratching out portions, but I seem to remember that Shakespeare's part was the least excised.

16 posted on 03/05/2015 7:19:34 AM PST by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: marshmallow

Wearing my “historian’s hat” I can only say that deciding to rebury Richard III under Catholic rites is only right and proper.


17 posted on 03/05/2015 7:33:14 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: miss marmelstein
I base my assessment of Anne Neville on the character of her father, the Earl of Warwick (The Kingmaker) and what little biographical information on her is available. It's my impression that she was as scheming and manipulative as her father, although I will concede that that is more personal bias than verifiable historical fact.

George's power lust drove him to confront Edward publicly, an act that was mad in its result if not its motive.

I agree that "White Queen" was a schlocky production, but it did draw attention to an important period in English history, and a king often neglected or mentioned simply as a precursor to the overrated Tudors.

18 posted on 03/05/2015 8:04:19 AM PST by IronJack
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You have to get rid of a personal bias: we know nothing of Ann or her sister Isabel who was married to George. All we know is that she grew up in Middleham, was a childhood friend to Richard, was forced into marriage with the “son” of Henry 6 who was killed, eventually married Richard and had one child by him - perhaps two, who died. We don’t know where she is buried in Westminster Abby. We know very little about Isabel, either. Warwick was away from home most of the time and probably had little influence on his daughters.

George, like all nobles, was deeply ambitious and anxious for the throne. He was led astray by Warwick on numerous occasions. His brother forgave him many times until he just went too far by judiously murdering his wife’s servant and going public with Edward’s bigamy.

There’s many good books on Richard out there - as well as hundreds of novels - so it’s really not necessary to go to that awful show which misrepresents almost everyone. Not to mention the awful acting...


19 posted on 03/05/2015 8:13:44 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: miss marmelstein

Agreed, it was pretty bad. And Gregory’s agenda became transparent as soon as she introduced Edward to the Rivers’ as some kind of Galahad come to save England from the “pretenders.”


20 posted on 03/05/2015 10:20:17 AM PST by IronJack
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