How the fictional early papacy became real

Beggars All Martin Luther's Mariology ^ | June 7,2010 | John Bugay

[Elsie]

People who say, "it's a hard saying, who can hear it" walked away from Christ then and obviously they do the same now because they have their own idea of what Jesus Christ should be and won't accept Jesus Christ as He is.

HMMMmmm...

There are people who have their own idea of what Jesus's mother SHOULD be and won't accept her as she is described in Scripture.

[boatbums]

I came back to see if any catholics had mentioned anything about the papacy and it's history....most haven't....is it telling then that the majority on this thread don't know the History of the Papacy sufficient to ‘defend’ it?

I don't know whether to be amused or bemused by the dearth of any real attempts by FRoman Catholics to discuss the topics of these recent threads. It seems the majority that do participate at all only offer snark, insults and assertions of things they never seem able to prove with any real, unbiased facts.

We get bombarded with accusations of hatred and nefarious motives just for posting articles that explain why non-Catholic Christians believe as we do and invite others to explain why they may believe differently. The perpetually offended and persecuted minority never seems to recognize their opportunities to educate others about their beliefs and, instead, only complain that anyone has the right to post such things at all. It's almost like they think the Free Republic Religion Forum belongs to Catholic Freepers and nothing critical of their religion should ever be allowed. I'm grateful for this site and prove it every month with my contributions. I'd be curious to see how some of the most vociferous FRomans compare in their donations.

[NYer]

Please...a simple google search will prove you wrong....do we really have to do the exercise?

What is your interpretation of the word "pray"?

[Elsie]

Do NOT use keywords to badger other groups of believers on the Religion Forum.

 

 

              Do other Freepers annoy you? Tired of being badgered??

 

 

              Do other Freepers annoy you? Tired of being badgered??

 

[Elsie]

I’m not so weak that I feel like I need the protection of the caucus label to post a thread.

We have a winner!

[Elsie]

Yes I agree it is really irritating to have to continually deal with people who just will not join the Church of What’s Happening Now. :-)

Speaking of Francis; are you one that likes him or dis-likes him?

[Elsie]

Always bring an extra, throwaway SNS to a knife fight.

It’ll make your case stronger in court.

[Elsie]

Is that a deliberate lie or just proof you think reading the rules of the Religion Forum is a waste of your precious time?

AHHhhh...

the excluded middle tactic.

[ealgeone]

>Please...a simple google search will prove you wrong....do we really have to do the exercise?<

What is your interpretation of the word "pray"?

Did/do you work for the clintons???

[Elsie]

Complete with pointy hat and red shoes.

Hat? Check. Shoes? I don't know.

[Elsie]

Feel free to have the last word.

Five times now since 251...

[Elsie]

You have still not answered my question: So, when your friends, or even strangers, ask you to pray for them, you refuse and tell them to go directly to Jesus?

No.

Get more straw...

[Elsie]

Please...a simple google search will prove you wrong....do we really have to do the exercise?

Yes; for our FR Catholics will CONTINUE to tell the tale that they don't!

[HossB86]

You are a true wit!

:D

Hoss

[boatbums]

If that helps you sleep at night...

[HossB86]

Neither do Catholics

Then how to do Roman Catholics invoke her to provide mediation? How do Roman Catholics invoke her to save?

Text message? Telegram? Hit her on her cell phone? Snail mail?

Roman Catholics PRAY to her. Apparently, you are poorly catechized....

From the Catechism of the Catholic Cult/Church:
"2675 Beginning with Mary's unique cooperation with the working of the Holy Spirit, the Churches developed their prayer to the holy Mother of God, centering it on the person of Christ manifested in his mysteries. In countless hymns and antiphons expressing this prayer, two movements usually alternate with one another: the first "magnifies" the Lord for the "great things" he did for his lowly servant and through her for all human beings29 The second entrusts the supplications and praises of the children of God to the Mother of Jesus, because she now knows the humanity which, in her, the Son of God espoused."

There. Fixed.

Hoss

[Georgia Girl 2]

The Pope is the Pope. Just like the President is the President. Some are better than others.

I’m just drinking blood and palling around with Mary. :-)

[NYer]

Did/do you work for the clintons???

In christian friendship, I asked a very simple question (What is your understanding of the word pray?). In return, you delivered a sarcastic response. Sarcasm is cloaked aggression. It is intended to mock or convey contempt. I can only conclude that like other non-Catholic freepers in this forum, you are not serious in your questions but use them only to attack Catholic beliefs. I'm truly sorry to learn this. Apologies if I offended you in any way.

[ealgeone]

I can only imagine catholics have a different definition of prayer as y’all do worship. The parsing y’all have to do amazes me.

[NYer]

I can only imagine catholics have a different definition of prayer as y’all do worship.

Indeed. Prayer is different from worship. Catholics worship ONLY God. To "pray" is to engage in conversation. I "pray" that the cold weather will soon diminish.

"to pray" may well have a different connotation in Evangelical vs Catholic Circles. Evangelicals equate "pray" with "worship". Never in its two thousand year history has the Church ever deified Mary or made her equal to God. In fact, the Church denounces as idolatry any person or thing worshiped except God alone and denounces any deification of Mary.