Did Christ go to hell after he died?

The Cripplegate, New Generation of Non-Conformists ^ | August 5, 2014 | Lyndon Unger, pastor/teacher currently between ministry work

[redleghunter]

Good source and clear. Thanks.

[redleghunter]

according to catholic doctrine, the patriarchs died in the friendship of God, but, since they lived (and died) before Christ, they could not enter into the kindgom of heaven.so, the idea is that Christ retrieved them from purgatory. that’s what he was doing for those three missing days before he was resurrected.

That Christ retrieved the OT saints from purgatory may be tradition, however we are told the following from Christ:

Luke 16:

19 “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 “Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ 25 But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’

From Christ's own description in this parable there were two places. One of comfort at the bosom of Abraham and one of torment. There was a gulf between them each could not pass from one to the other.

Some more info in the following:

Ephesians 4:

7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift. 8 Therefore He says:

“When He ascended on high, He led captivity captive, And gave gifts to men.”

9 (Now this, “He ascended”—what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is also the One who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.)

Lastly? What did Jesus tell the repentant sinner hanging on the cross next to Him? That he would be in Paradise with Him that day.

[SgtHooper]

Yes! To put all on notice that HE is the Christ, the Son of God, above all others, even all those in hell and who are over hell.

[redleghunter]

No. I don't think New York State was even founded yet.

LOL, well done. Are you saying I was born in 'hell' (NY)? But good news, by God's Grace I am now a Texan!

[LeoMcNeil]

I’m not Roman Catholic, I’m Reformed. I don’t know anyone who believes Christ descended literally to Hell. If he did then he lied to the thief who was saved during his execution. In addition, the punishment he suffered in place of the elect would not have been finished upon his death but rather at his resurrection. Such a position would call into question what exactly Christ meant when he said “it is finished.”

[CynicalBear]

>>Such a position would call into question what exactly Christ meant when he said “it is finished.”<<

Not really. When He said "it is finished" He was saying the payment for all sin was forever paid and the Old Testament laws made null. That part was finished. When arose from the dead He overcame death.

[RnMomof7]

according to catholic doctrine, the patriarchs died in the friendship of God, but, since they lived (and died) before Christ, they could not enter into the kindgom of heaven.

So much for "infallible "RC doctrine..

May I add some OT

2 Kings 2:1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven …

2 Kings 2:11As they were going along and talking, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire and horses of fire which separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind to heaven.

Genesis 5:24 Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, because God took him away.

One wonders where Rome thinks John the baptist went?

They OT SAINTS were saved by LOOKING FORWARD TO THE CROSS

SAINTS TODAY ARE SAVED BY LOOKING BACK TO THE CROSS

[RnMomof7]

To give those who had previously died a chance to be saved through Him.

There are NO "second chances ".Not for OT people or NT people ... Scripture never teaches 2nd chances

[RnMomof7]

No. I don't think New York State was even founded yet.

yep .. :>)

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “When He said “it is finished” He was saying the payment for all sin was forever paid and the Old Testament laws made null.” <<

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That is the opinion of a person with near zero understanding of God’s word!

In Matthew 5, Yeshua declared that Torah (old testament laws to the ignorant) was to remain until the Earth and the heavens no longer exist.

He said “it is finished” because that is what the High Priest is required to say when the Passover lambs have all been slaughtered.(He was both High Priest, and Passover Lamb)

Those that do not know Yeshua are always anxious for his Torah, the “instructions in righteousness,” to be out of their hopeless path, but that is not to be.

Those that love him keep his commandments; he said so.

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[metmom]

LOLOL!!!!

And guess what?

It’s frozen over now, too.

[CynicalBear]

Was the sacrifice for sins finished or not?

[Mark17]

Thanks RWC, that is just about what I thought, that Abraham’s bosom is now empty, and if he preached to the spirits in prison, it was not the gospel he was preaching. He was telling the dead that their doom was sealed for all eternity. I think it might have caused quite a stir among the dead, lost souls. If any of them had any hope of a second chance of getting out of Hell, Jesus just burst their bubble. There is not a snow balls chance in Hell (no pun intended) of anyone having a second chance. Once life on earth is done, it is OVER, forevermore.

[caww]

Good read....thanks for posting this.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Was the sacrifice for sins finished or not?” <<

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Of course it is finished, but that was just the first feast, when he said it. There remained Unleavened Bread, and Pentecost before he was to move in next to his daddy.

Remaining at this time are Purim, Yom Teruah, Yom Kippur, Succot, and The Last Great day before Torah has performed its intended service.

That means that it will be at least another 1000 years before the first jot or tittle of Torah falls off the scroll.

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[Roman_War_Criminal]

Indeed—our lives are short and but a vapor. James 4:14

Today is the day of Salvation! 2 Corinthians 6:2

We aren’t promised tomorrow, and as much as I hate living among the wolves, it pains me to know that once they die there is no second change—ever!

[LeoMcNeil]

If Christ’s redemptive work was finished, ie payment for the sins of his elect, why would he descend into Hell literally? Incidentally, Christ did not abolish all old testament laws. In Christ all laws relating to sacrifice and purity are done away with. The civil law remains.

[LeoMcNeil]

Where are coming up with any of that? In particular where are you coming up with another 1,000 years?

[imardmd1]

He was busy in those three days in Heaven with those whom he had previously saved and God the father. He was not, however, in Hell.

I believe you are greatly mistaken. This topic was dealt with in some detail almost three years ago, and you might want to scrutinize the Comments and the related Scriptures before reasserting the above opinion. I made a comment on Posr #21 of that thread as follows:

"He Descended into Hell . . ." Did Jesus Really Go To Hell: (clilck here to view commnts)

If you haven't understood the doctrine concerning Death, then you ought to. If your religious "authorities" have covered it up or neglected it, you might b quite ignorant of what Jesus' death (the separation of soul and spirit from the body) really means in what it accomplished in God's plan. Here is a little timeline chart of what Scripture says God's plan for souls in the ages has been and is to come:

[LeoMcNeil]

Because of course 2,000 years of Christian scholarship and near universal agreement, even among Protestants and Roman Catholics, must be ignored because someone on the internet created a chart that he imagines represents scripture in some odd manner. Do you get stock tips when you read scripture?