Posted on 02/05/2015 2:09:56 AM PST by Morgana
My advice is to read Romans chapter one very carefully.
They know it's wrong. Even tiny children intrinsically know it is wrong to murder helpless innocent people.
Ok then I think this is where our discussion/debate must end because if it’s really true that those who are pro “choice” (ALL of them) know abortion is really killing a baby, but say it’s ok anyway then there really is no hope for the pro-life movement because such people will never be convinced no matter how many laws are passed or arguments made.
You know this how?
There are pastors out there who have forced their teen daughters to have abortions so their church would not be embarrassed. There are women who have sat in pews for years feeling the guilt of abortion. There who sat in pews who forced their wives/gfs to have abortions. There are parents who sit in the pews that forced their teens to have abortions. It goes on and on. How Do I know this? I have read all the stories. Why does it happen? Mostly because the preacher don't preach it. I had one preacher tell me he don't wanna get involved because that is "political". That is code word for him telling me he's a democrat.
“Talk, talk, — but do the people from his church go and pray in front of abortion clinics?”
Look I’m just shocked they are talking!! Round these parts they don’t even do that. Little secret between you, me and the fence post I been to some of these churches. Heard them bash us Catholics at their revivals but not one word on abortion being murder. Seems to me that 23 seconds that so called preacher spent bashing our priests could have been better spent saying “Oh and by the way, abortion is murder”.
Did Christ cleanse the Roman courts or did He cleanse the synagogue? Did the apostles preach in the Roman coliseum or did they preach in the homes and assemblies of believers? Did Christ teach changing the Roman leadership or the hearts of individuals?
Well, I was going to protest outside the Morgentaler clinic downtown, but since I wasn't also simultaneously demonstrating outside Planned Parenthood, that meant I was telling them they could kill the baby. /s
Okay, I can understand that. If there are those in a church doing battle with the sin of murder - whether contemplating it, or repenting of it, or unsure of God’s forgiveness of it - then it most definitely needs to be addressed. It needs to be addressed by the preacher, the elders, the entire church as the case dictates.
Paul’s instructions to the Corinthian church regarding the sin among them can give us some wisdom in dealing with similar situations. (”A little leaven leavens the whole lump.”)
You certainly made some good points in this thread.
Perhaps you should have used the Reformed ping list instead. Chandler is in the Reformed camp of the SBC. Although he does have some YRR tendencies, he’s generally one of the good guys. And it’s packed with folks in their 20s and 30s. It is a multi-site megachurch.
Thanks.
That’s silly.
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