Posted on 01/17/2015 9:10:10 AM PST by BlatherNaut
VATICAN CITY – Michael Sam, the NFL’s first openly gay player, got engaged to boyfriend Vito Cammisano last week while on vacation in Italy.
Popular entertainment and gossip site TMZ mentioned the news on January 8, but Michael Sam kept silent on social media until January 16, when he tweeted out the following photo:
Sam popped the question atop St. Peter’s Basilica in Vatican City.
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St Peter’s and the Vatican:
No matter who you are, this says that Michael Sam IS about ‘in your face’.
There it is. It's not so much about sex but all about aTtEnTiOn!!! for them. Their insatiable need is a mental disorder. It's truly scary to think what they'll do to fill that need.
The Catholic church isn't the problem. Their problem is with God. Same goes for atheists.
That doesn’t sound like a good foundation. Just wanting to be married like other people is a wrong reason that leads to some awful failed marriages, and that is jut talking about opposite gender marriages. Marriage should not be thought of as some status symbol, but the focus should be on making it work, and on being faithful before and after you are married.
Most likely wanted to, but when you consider all the European liberal nations, especially Italy, surrounding you, that’s a stupid move unless God is guaranteed to lay the smack down on your behalf and engage the earthquakes, volcanoes, and tsunamis to your benefit. People sometimes forget the years under the reign of Ahab were allowed by God, in addition to the slaughter of his holy men, before Ahab and his family took turns dying and being eaten by dogs. God can allow plenty of insults and defilement before he actually strikes.
He also published a document stating that homosexual “sexual orientation” ought to be “valued” in “our communities”.
Opposed to natural law, yet “valuable”? Utter contradiction. Seems like a sly effort to undermine traditional teachings while pretending to uphold them. Ergo faithful shepherds such as Cardinal Burke who point out the fallacies in the new Kasper/Forte doctrines are swept out the door.
http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2014/10/13/0751/03037.html
Actually, the truth is that I don’t wish ill at all on homosexuals. Nor do I think homosexuality should be “illegal,” because I can’t for the life of me figure out what the government has to do with whether a man wants to do things with another man’s privates. I do however see that they are taking over the schools, and this bothers me a great deal. It used to be “live and let live,” now it’s “give us your kids.”
Thank you for setting me straight on some of these things.
Thank you for that link to the pre-Synod document. I think you may be referring parts of paragraphs 18, 19, and 20 as being objectionable. Is this correct? And are there other objectionable paragraphs?
BTW I was searching the document with the keyword “value” and did not find a part about valuing a homosexual orientation, but I may well have missed it. Could you tell me where to find it?
I'm not sure the adverb is always "passively."
As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) in every state where "gay marriage" was turned down by voters in a ballot question, the Catholic Chuch was the #1 funder or the "keep naural marriage" vote. There were only a couple of exceptions in the Inter-Mountain West and maybe California, where the LDS Church was the main funder of the natural-marriage side.
Public profession that you are married to your "gay" partner is enough to get you fired from parochial school or parish employment. That has caused a big brouhaha in the courts, but so far the Catholic Church has been mostly successful in the right to fire an employee on the grounds of public immoral behavior in violation of their employment contract.
Mind you, I don't think Catholic Church opposition to homosexual conduct has been active enough. Not by a long shot. Bbut it has been, in another sense, "active enough" for gays to consider us "active" enemy #1.
50. Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community. Are we capable of providing for these people, guaranteeing [...] them [...] a place of fellowship in our communities? Oftentimes, they want to encounter a Church which offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of this, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?
The words (as expected) seem designed to be weaselly.
On the one hand "accepting" their sexual orientation could mean simply to accept one's cross, as one would accept that one has, for instance, an autism spectrum disorder or mental retardation. It presents social difficulties and moral challenges but having the disorder is not morally offensive in itself. It's also part of Catholic moral perspective that one is not morally obliged to try to change from homosexual to heterosexual. It IS necessary to avoid sin and the near occasions of sin.
But a homosexual tendency is, precisely, a disorder. A trial. A cross to bear.
But, OTOH, "accepting" could be understood as a call to say it is not a disorder at all. That would be a big, big problem.
As for "valuing" their orientation -- that seems even more weaselly, because the orientation IS a form of disability, one which involves temptations (attractions to sin) of -- it seems --- a particularly persistent kind.
People who have this orientation find it much harder, sometimes impossible, to validly marry a person of the other sex (the Sacrament of Matrimony). It's also harder--- and always inappropriate -- to enter into a religious community of consecrated life (for instance monk or nun) because they are one-sex environments and so would be occasions of sin for a homosexual person.
So, that's a disability again.
Hard to see what there is to "value" about that.
BTW, I once knew a guy who had exactly this problem. Couldn't marry a woman: absolutely no attraction, let alone arousal. Couldn't join a monastery: he tried, he got crushes on guys, had to leave. Couldn't live alone: serious anxiety-depression issues.
A good pastoral response to this man? I don't know. I lost track of him years ago. Don't know if he's living or dead at this point.
He was a maker of wooden stringed insruments, dulcimers and such. A sweet, suffering guy.
Like hell he did.
By passively, I only meant that the general feeling appears to be “be gay or be Catholic, you can’t be both” - whereas Islam is more “be gay or keep your head attached”.
OK, I see what you’re saying.
Jesus H Christ Michael Sam can barely tie his shoes.
Can there be any doubt who got Mikey to blow what's left of his cash on un grand tour di Italia, from a guy named 'Vito'? C'mon.
This doofus will never take a snap in the NFL; but more amusing, is being led around Europe by his nose, with a spendthrift homo at the lead chain spending literally his last dollar.
SCHADENFREUDE
They do this to flaunt their perversion in the most presumably holy places. It’s Satan’s way.
UCK.
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