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Pope on Charlie Hebdo: There are limits to freedom of expression when faith is insulted
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| January 15, 2015
| AP
Posted on 01/15/2015 5:54:28 AM PST by DaveMSmith
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To: JimRed
Fighting words are words intentionally directed toward another person which are so venomous and full of malice as to cause the hearer to suffer emotional distress or incite him/her to immediately retaliate physically.
Fighting words are not an excuse or defense for a retaliatory assault and battery. However, if they are so threatening as to cause apprehension, they can form the basis for a lawsuit for assault, even though the words alone don't constitute an assault.
The utterance of fighting words is not protected by the free speech protections of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. The words are often evaluated not only by the words themselves, but the context in which they are spoken. Courts generally impose a requirement that the speaker intended to cuase a breach of the peace or incite the hearer to violence. Confused now?
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posted on
01/15/2015 6:51:38 AM PST
by
JimRed
(Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
To: DaveMSmith
“If my good friend Dr. Gasparri says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch” - Pope Francis
“But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.” - Matthew 5:39
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posted on
01/15/2015 6:54:06 AM PST
by
ctdonath2
(Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
To: DaveMSmith
WRONG!
If your faith is so shaky that some magazine makes you question it, then you should reexamine your faith.
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posted on
01/15/2015 6:55:33 AM PST
by
dfwgator
To: DaveMSmith
The “Whore of Babylon” “Speaks!
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posted on
01/15/2015 6:55:46 AM PST
by
US Navy Vet
(Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
To: Fresh Wind
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posted on
01/15/2015 6:56:53 AM PST
by
dfwgator
To: kabar
No disagreement and I simply repeat that the Pope needs to mind his own business.
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posted on
01/15/2015 6:58:37 AM PST
by
don-o
(He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
To: Louis Foxwell
Onvce again the refined Jesuit is over-intellectualizing. Be careful. A few days ago a FReeper was swearing Bergoglio had to renounce his Jesuitry to become pope. I'm not sure who said it, but he was emphatic.
What's interesting to me that the Jesuits from the National Catholic Review, publishers of America magazine, don't seem to know what certain FReepers know. And according to the Jesuit in this video, Francis continues to refer to himself as a Jesuit.
Pope Francis: Still a Jesuit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nTePyD1TWI
To: .45 Long Colt
To: dfwgator
To: CGASMIA68
To: DaveMSmith
If it’s the faith of a bunch of bloodthirsty savages in their pedophile false prophet, I find it hard to work up any outrage.
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posted on
01/15/2015 7:15:51 AM PST
by
CatherineofAragon
((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
To: DaveMSmith
There are rather strict limits to what is polite, but any limits on what should be legal are very different.
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posted on
01/15/2015 7:17:03 AM PST
by
Pollster1
("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
To: onedoug
Apparently Elijah didn't get the memo:
1Kings 18:25-29
25 Then Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, Choose for yourselves one bull and prepare it first, for you are many, and call upon the name of your god, but put no fire to it. 26 And they took the bull that was given them, and they prepared it and called upon the name of Baal from morning until noon, saying, O Baal, answer us! But there was no voice, and no one answered. And they limped around the altar that they had made. 27 And at noon Elijah mocked them, saying, Cry aloud, for he is a god. Either he is musing, or he is relieving himself, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened. 28 And they cried aloud and cut themselves after their custom with swords and lances, until the blood gushed out upon them. 29 And as midday passed, they raved on until the time of the offering of the oblation, but there was no voice. No one answered; no one paid attention.
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posted on
01/15/2015 7:24:08 AM PST
by
armydoc
To: JimRed
"OK, I'll give it a shot...When you bait the bear, don't be surprised when he bites you. When you yell "nigger" in the 'hood, don't expect to escape a beatdown. When you insult the "prophet" (pi$$ be upon him), be armed and on guard 24-7. And when you insult believers in Jesus' Salvation, expect them to pray that your heart be changed and your soul saved"
Except that famous believer in Jesus' salvation, Pope Francis, endorsed violence for baiting the bear.
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01/15/2015 7:25:30 AM PST
by
CatherineofAragon
((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
To: SMARTY
Christians Catholics are slandered, etc. daily and almost hourly...but I guess THATS OK
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posted on
01/15/2015 7:28:12 AM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: DavidLSpud
That prophecy was not complete, so some people say.
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posted on
01/15/2015 7:29:14 AM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: JimRed
>> Confused now?
No, the *theory* is quite clear.
But as in many things legal, the more important question is “who decides”?
To a faggot or goathumper, and these days to blacks as well, the sensitivity threshold is vanishingly small.
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posted on
01/15/2015 7:30:59 AM PST
by
Nervous Tick
(There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
To: Blackyce
I’m Catholic and I’m sitting this Pope out. Meaning that I’m still a faithful churchgoing Catholic but I think that the conclave ignored the will of the Holy Spirit when it came to electing this one. It’s been known to happen, human frailty and politics and all.
I was willing to give the Pope a pass the first or second time he said something outrageous, as there’s no reason NOT to blame the press for most things and especially for bad translations, but as the hits just keep on coming it’s clearly not the press that’s the problem here.
To: JimRed
All true. But when the Pope says there are “limits” on free speech when it comes to insulting religion, he’s wrong. If he said “there may be repercussions,” then we don’t have this thread. But what he said is wrong and totalitarian.
To: DaveMSmith
I can’t believe this from a Pope, what would Jesus do?
We know what he did, he turned his other cheek. Jesus would never advocate that you punch someone.
The Pope should be removed.
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posted on
01/15/2015 7:41:19 AM PST
by
dila813
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