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Catholics! Keep Your Trees Up!
Catholic Answers ^ | December 30, 2014 | Christopher Check

Posted on 01/02/2015 3:46:20 AM PST by NYer

New Year’s Day promises two certainties: college football bowl games and Christmas trees on the curb. To Catholics, of course, January 1 is the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God. It's a Holy Day of Obligation, and the final day of the Octave of Christmas.

The Church, however, is so generous with joy. She does not end our celebration of the Incarnation with the conclusion of the Octave of Christmas. She extends it to Epiphany. Twelfth Night, as our English-speaking brethren call it, is an event Catholics in America should celebrate with more enthusiasm (think: roaring bonfires, grilled meat, lots of singing, red wine, brown ale) and might very well do if it were observed here on the Liturgical Calendar on January 6 as it is England, Australia, and Canada, to say nothing of Vatican City.

But the celebrating doesn’t stop there! After Epiphany, the revelry continues until the Baptism of the Lord, the first Sunday after January 6 (usually). This year, Catholics may very well wish to keep their decorations up through January 11. And if you want to be really traditional, you can celebrate what the faithful called “Christmastide” before the liturgical reforms that followed the Second Vatican Council. In the old rite, or what we today call the Extraordinary Form, Christmastide lasted for 40 days to correspond with the 40 days of Lent, and the 40 days from Easter to Ascension Thursday.  

A 40-day party? Gloria in Excelsis! (And people say Trad Cats are a dour bunch.)

Christmastide ended on February 2, the Purification of the Blessed Virgin Mary, also called Candlemas Day. On this day, the faithful take candles that they will use throughout the year in their homes to Mass to have them blessed.

Here is how the brilliant Benedictine Abbot Dom Prosper Guéranger helps us understand the totality of the mystery of Christmastide:

We apply the name of Christmas to the 40 days, which begin with the Nativity of Our Lord, December 25, and end with the Purification of the Blessed Virgin Mary, February 2. It is a period, which forms a distinct portion of the Liturgical Year, as distinct, by its own special spirit, from every other, as are Advent, Lent, Easter or Pentecost. One same Mystery is celebrated and kept in view the whole 40 days. Neither the Feasts of the Saints, which so abound during this Season; nor the time of Septuagesima, with its mournful Purple, which often begins before Christmastide is over, seem able to distract our Holy Mother the Church from the immense joy with which She received the glad tidings from the Angels (Luke 2:10) on that glorious Night for which the world had been longing for 4000 years. The custom of celebrating the Solemnity of Our Savior's Nativity by a Feast of 40 days' duration is founded on the Holy Gospel itself; for it tells us that the Blessed Virgin Mary, after spending 40 days in the contemplation of the Divine Fruit of Her glorious Maternity, went to the Temple, there to fulfill, in most perfect humility, the ceremonies which the Law demanded of the daughters of Israel when they became mothers. The Feast of Mary's Purification is, therefore, part of that of Jesus' Birth; and the custom of keeping this holy and glorious period of 40 days as one continued Festival has every appearance of being a very ancient one, at least in the Roman Church.

The feast in the new rite is called the Presentation of the Lord—same joyful event, different emphasis, but if you really want to be a “sign of contradiction” (get it?) do as they did in ages past! Keep your tree and your decorations up until Candlemas!



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To: HiTech RedNeck
We had Siamese that were inveterate tree-climbers - the last of my breeding died last year, and we have so many dogs that my hubby said NO MORE CATS.

Our solution for the climbing problem was to put a screw-eye in a ceiling beam and wire the tree to the ceiling. Kitties could scramble up and down and do no real harm. Strangely enough, they never broke a glass ornament climbing around the tree. Although one of my little females had the odd habit of taking an ornament that was a little stuffed mouse in an old-fashioned Kate Greenaway bonnet and pinafore, hauling her down the tree, and UNDRESSING her. I don't know if she was a champion of Nudity for Mice or was offended by her pretending to be a human.

101 posted on 01/02/2015 9:08:23 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: NYer

Orthodox Christmas Day 2015
Wednesday, January 7, 2015


102 posted on 01/02/2015 9:08:50 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: Yosemitest

Today, tens of millions of beautiful trees, which COULD become huge, mature Douglas firs, spruce, balsams, or other kinds of conifers, and which COULD be used to build millions of homes, or produce resins, paper, and dozens of useful products, are instead cut down, then shipped via truck and rail to distribution points, then stood up, to have a base nailed to them, and sold to “Christians” to take indoors and decorate with orbs and bulbs.


Darn I can’t do either. I cut off my feet and gouged out my eyes years ago...


103 posted on 01/02/2015 9:13:32 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: miss marmelstein

My Dad used to put aspirin in the water the tree stood in. Aspirin being acidic, it served the same kind of myriatic acid served on the shrubs when they’d turn brown. Whatever it was, it worked pretty well! He also cut it on an angle with a hacksaw so it would absorb the water better. : )


104 posted on 01/02/2015 9:20:47 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: cloudmountain

I take the tree down after Epiphany, but I keep the Nativity scene up until Candlemas.


105 posted on 01/02/2015 9:31:53 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: defconw
Thanks. I have been craving mulled wine for awhile now. Does not seem like Christmas without it. I think I will pass on the carrot coffee however. :)

Aaaawwww, darn, now I've got a craving for egg nog! ; )

106 posted on 01/02/2015 9:32:23 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: Grateful2God

Yes, the old aspirin trick. I forgot it this year.


107 posted on 01/02/2015 9:32:35 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Yosemitest

Talk about not reading something. You obviously didn’t read what I posted to you! The points you (or that article you posted) make are addressed by what I posted. Namely, the central point “learn not the way of the heathen”. The question you should be asking yourself, if you even want to pretend to be objective is, “what is God warning against when He says ‘learn not the way of the heathen?’”

He’s most certainly not saying “don’t do anything the pagans do”. He’s saying “don’t commit adultery against Me by committing idolatry”. Which is serving other gods, or taking them to be equal or superior to God.

From this understanding it’s clear that passages like Jer 10 are not warning against Christmas tree usage, rather they are warning against adopting pagan idol worship. Did you get that? *Idol Worship*, that is worshipping a tree or a statue or any “graven image” because one believes that statue or tree or image contains a spirit being inside it. That’s idolarty and that’s what passages like Jer 10 forbid. Here’s the rub though...

...no one (today, celebrating Christmas with a tree decoration) is worshipping the TREE! So the texts like Jer 10 don’t apply to the Christmas tree unless, like the article I gave you said, someone is literally bowing down to the tree and worshipping it like some god. (Or also as the article said if someone loves their Christmas tree more than they love God).

Now honestly, put down Alexander Hislop for a second and think on your own: do you believe that people are worshipping their Christmas trees? Bowing down and making sacrifices TO the tree itself? Think, THINK!

This same line of reasoning applies to claims such as Christmas itself is sinful because it is pagan or Easter, or any other such claim that relies on mere similarities in decorations to prove idolatry.

Also the mere fact (if it is) that Christmas is right around the time of some other pagan celebrations isn’t proof of anything sinister either, just proof that the pagan religion was destroyed and replaced by Christianity. Christ is victorious over all, including pagan religions themselves, and somehow this victory is bad? Somehow this supplantation and virtual elimination of paganism is evil, merely because it’s on (or near) the same day as the now dead pagan religion? Again, no one is worshipping “sol invictus” or whatever other forgotten old god you or Hislop use to justify your Grinch-like attitude. And that’s the POINT: a day isn’t bad in of itself, it’s what’s DONE on that day or date that’s “bad” (or good).

You don’t have to reply if you now realize the stupidity of this whole claim. If you do reply though, and continue to assert your original claim, then I can see no reason to reply to you further. Your mind will be known to be closed to reason at that point.


108 posted on 01/02/2015 9:32:39 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: NYer

Good grief ya’ll have a lot of rules to follow.


109 posted on 01/02/2015 9:51:08 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Yosemitest
Tell me, please, does your Bible say, GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST, AND ON EARTH PEACE TO MEN OF GOOD WILL? Or at least something similar?

We celebrate the Birth of Jesus.

Does it matter if it's the exact same day as 2000+ years ago? The fact is, we celebrate, as least as much as we are permitted to, thanks to the misinterpretation of "separation of church and state."

Good will. That means kindness and a genuine concern for one's fellow humans. What do you do, besides criticize your fellow man, to celebrate the Birth of Jesus?

May God bless you!

110 posted on 01/02/2015 9:54:47 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: ealgeone
Good grief ya’ll have a lot of rules to follow.

Maybe, but those who make God and His Church the center of their lives follow them as a labor of love, not only for God, but for all our fellow men in humanity!

111 posted on 01/02/2015 10:06:28 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: Grateful2God

Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29“Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30“For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30


112 posted on 01/02/2015 10:13:41 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

Keeping your tree up is not a rule. It’s a tradition, it’s not like the Bishop comes by and gives you a citation for not having a tree up. Christmas deserves more than just one day.


113 posted on 01/02/2015 10:13:50 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: miss marmelstein
"Yes, the old aspirin trick. I forgot it this year."

They didn't have enteric-coated back then, when we had a real tree. I wonder if those would melt? ;)

114 posted on 01/02/2015 10:14:07 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: ealgeone

That’s right! : )


115 posted on 01/02/2015 10:16:05 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Let't take a closer look at Isaiah 3:16-22, or better yet, all of Chapter 3 of Isaiah. Yes, I would agree that God is rebuking people.
But it's for more than just building idols.
Read it all, again.
It sounds like it was written AS A WARNING FOR THE PEOPLE OF TODAY, for right here, and right now!
116 posted on 01/02/2015 10:17:16 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: FourtySeven
Do you realize just how warped and ridiculous you sound?
Christmas and "the Christmas Tree IS the way of the heathen !
117 posted on 01/02/2015 10:21:11 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Could you please explain what you meant in the last line of your post #103? Thanks, and God bless you!


118 posted on 01/02/2015 10:27:11 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: FourtySeven

So Vikings aren’t Pagan? Interesting. they had the tree thing going long before Christianity adopted it.


119 posted on 01/02/2015 10:29:01 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Grateful2God
Did Jesus SAY to celebrate His Birth?
Or did Jesus say something else?
You can't even get the date right.

And when you celebrate His resurrection, do you get the FULL THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS Jesus was in the ground ... correct?
Or do you screw that up also?
120 posted on 01/02/2015 10:31:01 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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