Posted on 12/19/2014 1:30:26 PM PST by SeekAndFind
In desperate, desperate need of a savior.
Show us where divorce rates are better for Catholics than the rest of the world.
Nor do non-Catholics churches sanction marriage breakup under the guise of *annulments*.
Want to take it? No.
Need to take it? Probably.
You got some scripture for that??? If not, it's a false doctrine...
"For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”
How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?
How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, “HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!”
However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?”
So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ."
3. I was pointing out that what was said was at best a half-truth.
4. Agreed. See post 43.
Go where the sinners are.
Why would we think them odd??? We read about them in the scriptures...It is these things created by your religion which the scriptures are bereft of that we find odd, weird and offensive:
"I am still wondering what Jesus said to encourage the use of prayer beads, praying to statues, praying to Saints and making some kind of Goddess from Mary."
The doctrine of indulgences is perfectly sound.
The Bible IS Jesus.
I dunno about that:
(James 2:14-26)If you say that you believe something, yet never act on that
What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you? If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and eat your fill,” and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.
But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. Do you want to be shown, you senseless person, that faith apart from works is barren? Was not our ancestor Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was brought to completion by the works. Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness,” and he was called the friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. Likewise, was not Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by another road? For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is also dead.
belief, can it really be said that your belief means anything?
Then you shouldn't have any problem backing it us.
Where are the stats and where is the proof?
we don’t give up the Gospel, which has two parts: We are sinners, and there is a God who saves sinners.
No, but there's a difference between telling people that they have to go out and do works to be saved, and telling them that if they do not have the fruit of works resulting from faith, they'd better examine themselves to see if they are in the faith.
I'm afraid that a misplaced emphasis on works could lead someone with an intellectual *faith* to think that by adding works they're OK, when they're not.
Saving faith will produce the fruit of the Spirit as well. So simply adding good works to intellectual assent won't save anyone.
“2. The only way to enter the Kingdom of Heaven is through DOING the will of God. “
I have often heard a condemned man to die for murder can accept Jesus as his Lord and Savior anytime before his death and accepted. Guess not.
Yes.
Interesting that you bring up ‘doctrine’ in today’s day and age as today there are as many doctrines as there are people. Who are you to say what is a false doctrine and what a true doctrine is? Undoubtedly you will say scripture. Yet I read daily that one man’s doctrine is not accepted by another man and both point to scripture.
I believe when I point out the scriptural references for Indulgences you will promptly reject them.
Without one teaching authority, which Christ wanted, nobodies opinion on scripture or doctrine is as good as anybody else’s.
This article is a pipe dream and incapable of happening until we all go back to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Amen!
There are plenty of catholic resources on line explaining Indulgences. My point of contention is the author spreading misinformation about the abuse of Indulgences which in part led to the protestant revolt.
Faith in Christ cannot be maintained pure and unalloyed when it is not protected and supported by faith in the Church ... Faith in Christ and faith in the Church stand together ... Whenever a person obstinately separates himself from the infallible teaching of the Church, he gradually loses the certain and true doctrine about Jesus Christ. If we should ask the many different sects, especially those dating from the 16th and 17th centuries and still bearing the honored name of “Christian,” what they now believe concerning Him, we would receive varying and often conflicting answers. They present Jesus Christ as man, very similar to God, but they are far removed from a full and sincere profession of Catholic faith. Hence, it appears that all these heretics wish by rash endeavor to dissolve Christ and therefore, according to the Apostle John, “are not of God” (I John 4:3) ...From the exalted summit of this Apostolic See, We there- fore call with fatherly spirit upon all individuals and groups who glory in being disciples of Christ and who place in Him their hope of salvation ... always to cling ever firmly to the Roman Church in which belief in Christ is maintained with one entire and perfect faith, worshipped with sincere adoration, and loved with undying charity. Let those who govern flocks separated from Us remember how their forerunners solemnly professed the faith, and how in the past as in the present, this same faith has been preserved and earnestly defended by this supreme Chair of Truth. Let them remember that this genuine unity of faith rests only on the One Rock established by Christ and, further, that it has been preserved safe and secure by the supreme authority of the successors of blessed Peter.
Pope Pius XI
So many good quotes to choose from. St. John Paul the Great, pray for us!
Couple more who want to take it, or are willing.....and I’ll give it. Yes - we all need to take it.
Indeed. In time our separated brethren will come to the realization that sola scriptura is a losing proposition and will make their way home to the One True Church.
St. John Paul the Great, pray for us!
Amen.
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