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The Mormon Church's official statement on abortion [rape+ incest+mom's 'health'+'defect'+prayer-ok]
2011: complete article in Deseret News (owned by Lds church) ^ | April 30, 2011

Posted on 12/16/2014 4:38:29 PM PST by Colofornian

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes in the sanctity of human life...

The Church allows for possible exceptions for its members when:

The Church teaches its members that even these rare exceptions do not justify abortion automatically. Abortion is a most serious matter and should be considered only after the persons involved have consulted with their local church leaders and feel through personal prayer that their decision is correct."

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Other Christian
KEYWORDS: abortion; lds; mormon; prolife; sanctityoflife
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Posted this thread in response to a query on another FR thread.

So...let's break down these Mormon "a-okisms" to abortion, shall we? When do the Mormon gods' reps on earth deem violent warfare upon the womb to be fine & dandy, albeit a "serious" fine & dandy?

(1) When the perpetrator engages in incest, so he can thereby re-abuse the minor -- this time by forcing her to cover up his violent/exploitative sexual rapes by way of an abortion.

(2) When the perpetrator is a rapist, meaning the girl's (or woman's) will be violently invaded a second time, this time resulting in the death of another.

(3a) When the "health" of the mother kicks in...whatever that means given that...
...* many doctors are either open to abortion referrals -- or -- who willingly themselves dismember the fetus...
...* and, therefore, wind up flunking any basic obstetrics textbook which treats the baby as a "second patient"...
...* leaving us to consider that these so-called rogue "physicians" define "health" as broadly as Roe vs Wade did! (And for those of you who don't readily recall how broad that definition was, just know that those black-robed rogues included "economic health" as justification for abortion-on-demand!)

(3b) Furthermore, "competent physician" language used by the Mormon church in the 1970s and 1980s became obsolete once full-time abortionists and circuit-riding abortionists became the abortion "transaction" norm. For the past 25 years or so, approximately 90% of all abortions have been committed in free-standing abortion clinics -- NOT by "competent physicians" operating in either hospitals or their own private offices.

(4) Besides "ditto" above re the again-used description of "competent" physicians, why would the Mormon Church entertain the idea that physicians are "prophets" who can successfully predict with 100% certainty that a baby's birth defects WILL result in death? I've personally spoken with numerous women who were told to abort by their so-called "competent" medical personnel due to some perceived "defect" of the fetus (Latin for "young one"), only to deliver a perfectly healthy baby!

(5) Note then how the Mormon Church ushers God into the baby dismemberment business! As if God the Creator-God, after He has fearfully and wonderfully made each little one (see Psalm 139), would give suction aspirators the green light thru "prayer" to dismember His creative little ones whom Jesus warns about harming! (See Luke 17:2, for example -- and please note that the exact same Greek word there for "little ones" ...brephos is the SAME word used for the pre-born John the Baptist, who leapt in the womb upon hearing Aunt Mary's voice (Luke 1:44).

Finally, note the "feel" word used by the Mormon Church as supposedly being able to determine the Mormon gods' edicts to put to death a pre-born baby. Some mere "feeling" of a woman or girl in a perceived "crisis" is enough to put the baby to death?

God forbid!

1 posted on 12/16/2014 4:38:29 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Morgana; Elsie; All

Ping


2 posted on 12/16/2014 4:38:54 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
I have READ that when the mother is told that the choice is whether SHE lives or the baby lives, she always says: LET THE BABY LIVE.

Perhaps that's just another urban legend, but my gut says no.

3 posted on 12/16/2014 4:43:51 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Colofornian
Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware that the Mormon hierarchy had so clearly defined their attitude on abortion.
They DON'T sound much like the Catholic hierarchy, that's for sure.

Is the Catholic Church the ONLY institution on God's good earth against abortion?

4 posted on 12/16/2014 4:47:48 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: All
For previous official statements made by the Mormon Church on abortion (1973, 1983-1984), see my post...
...here
5 posted on 12/16/2014 4:48:07 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: cloudmountain

I have witness this on two different occasions. Mother always chose the life of the baby over her own. By the way, both mother and child survived in both instances.


6 posted on 12/16/2014 4:49:32 PM PST by doc1019
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To: cloudmountain

My daughter was in that situation, fortunately she and the baby survived.
He was born early and today at six is healthy, energetic and happy, she is happily tired.


7 posted on 12/16/2014 4:52:15 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: cloudmountain
Is the Catholic Church the ONLY institution on God's good earth against abortion?

Nope, millions of protestants (if I can call Protestantism an institution), for the most part, are against abortion.

8 posted on 12/16/2014 4:53:46 PM PST by doc1019
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To: cloudmountain

“Is the Catholic Church the ONLY institution on God’s good earth against abortion? “

Completely, Yes.


9 posted on 12/16/2014 5:00:19 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: doc1019

Some protestants cave for the rape/incest one!


10 posted on 12/16/2014 5:00:50 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

As do many Catholics ...


11 posted on 12/16/2014 5:01:56 PM PST by doc1019
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To: All; Morgana
For those wanting to look into why as to the timing of this thread, see thread posted yesterday by another FREEPER (Morgana)...who does us an EXCELLENT service on FR in posting many pro-life threads...(& some abortion media mindsets)

See: Mormons hate polygamy thiiiiiiiiis much

Morgana posted that blog -- written by Mormon blogger Jana Riess -- in which Jana cites a national survey of Mormons that while 86% of Lds oppose polygamy, by comparison, only 74% of Mormons oppose abortion.

Why then is polygamy more "anathema" to Lds than the slaughter of the pre-born?

Well, that involves a complex response...one I will address on that thread in a soon-coming post.

12 posted on 12/16/2014 5:03:10 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Disappointing. This basically echoes the spineless "social statement" of the liberal mainline ELCA and probably the rest of the liberal protestant churches.

In other words, abortion is OK if you furrow your brow and frown and purse your lips and pray about it.

13 posted on 12/16/2014 5:04:04 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: doc1019

Many Catholic themselves may believe in it and may have one but that is NOT the teachings of the Catholic Church.


14 posted on 12/16/2014 5:04:10 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana
Is the Catholic Church the ONLY institution on God’s good earth against abortion?

Completely, Yes.

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THANK YOU.

15 posted on 12/16/2014 5:04:53 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: hinckley buzzard
Disappointing. This basically echoes the spineless "social statement" of the liberal mainline ELCA and probably the rest of the liberal protestant churches.
In other words, abortion is OK if you furrow your brow and frown and purse your lips and pray about it.

Disappointing doesn't BEGIN to describe the murder of God's most innocent and vulnerable souls.
Imagine, murdering those tiny BRAND NEW souls of God's.

16 posted on 12/16/2014 5:07:27 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Morgana
“Is the Catholic Church the ONLY institution on God’s good earth against abortion? “ Completely, Yes.

Which explains why the Church takes such a strong public stand against the likes of Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, any Kennedy, yadda, yadda, yadda.

snore

17 posted on 12/16/2014 5:09:19 PM PST by Robwin
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To: Morgana

Nor is it the teaching of the vast majority of protestant denominations. We could dance with this one all night and never get anywhere.

We both belong to denominations that, for the most part, are against these tenets of the abortion dialogue. Within these denominations there are some that go along with the rape/incest excuse, but for the most part, Christians as a group don’t, not just Catholics.


18 posted on 12/16/2014 5:10:40 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Robwin

“Pelosi, Biden, Kerry, any Kennedy”

CINO’s

Don’t even say their names


19 posted on 12/16/2014 5:10:56 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Colofornian

What’s worse, rape or murder? They are willing to murder the child for the sins of his/her father.


20 posted on 12/16/2014 5:12:13 PM PST by NorthstarMom
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