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Mexican Catholics Lose Religion in the USA
Breitbart ^ | 10 Dec 2014 | Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.

Posted on 12/15/2014 8:08:30 AM PST by Alex Murphy

New evidence from the Pew Research Center reveals that Mexican Catholics who emigrate to the United States are considerably less religious than their counterparts who remain in Mexico.

A hefty majority of US Hispanics are of Mexican descent (64%), according to US Census Bureau statistics, and about a third of Mexican Americans were born in Mexico and immigrated into the US. Mexican Americans, however, exhibit differences both in religious affiliation and in doctrinal belief as compared with Catholics living in Mexico.

Though the Pew study does not explore the reasons Mexican Catholics leave the Church when emigrating to the US, it does offer statistics that show a substantial decline of Catholic affiliation. While 81% of Mexicans identify themselves as Catholics, the number drops to 61% of Mexican Americans—a difference of 20%, or some four million persons, in real terms.

Some have theorized that the drop-off may be due in part to inadequate attention to Hispanic Catholics in US parishes. A recent Boston College study found that only a quarter of US Catholic parishes have programs aimed at Hispanics, despite the fact that they make up about 40 percent of the approximately 78 million Catholics in the country. About six percent of all Masses in the United States are now celebrated in Spanish.

Of those Mexican American Catholics who leave the Church, some become Protestants and others lose any religious affiliation whatsoever. Percentagewise, there are twice as many Mexican American Protestants as Mexican Protestants and 17% of Mexican Americans claim no religious affiliation, compared with only 7% of Mexicans in this category.

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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I used to live in Anaheim. I can imagine.


21 posted on 12/15/2014 4:55:07 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Alex Murphy

Majority of the Mexican freeloaders illegally come to American,protestants convert them, and they in turn vote for democrats who give them all the freebies. The devout hispanic Catholics that have lied in the US for generation after generation are Catholic and vote for republicans. My Mexican-American buddy I knew when I worked at the VA hospital, a retired Air Force master sergeant, relayed those facts to me.


22 posted on 12/15/2014 10:10:14 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: NKP_Vet; Gamecock; metmom; daniel1212
Majority of the Mexican freeloaders illegally come to American,protestants convert them, and they in turn vote for democrats who give them all the freebies. The devout hispanic Catholics that have lied in the US for generation after generation are Catholic and vote for republicans. My Mexican-American buddy I knew when I worked at the VA hospital, a retired Air Force master sergeant, relayed those facts to me.

Are you going to tell us that you didn't give any thought to his words? What was his military speciality? Counter-Ops?

23 posted on 12/16/2014 6:03:27 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy

24 posted on 12/16/2014 6:13:42 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Alex Murphy; NKP_Vet; Gamecock; metmom
Majority of the Mexican freeloaders illegally come to American,protestants convert them, and they in turn vote for democrats who give them all the freebies. The devout hispanic Catholics that have lied in the US for generation after generation are Catholic and vote for republicans. My Mexican-American buddy I knew when I worked at the VA hospital, a retired Air Force master sergeant, relayed those facts to me.

Are you going to tell us that you didn't give any thought to his words? What was his military speciality? Counter-Ops?

In-credible, hearsay testimony settles it, as besides the fitting typo, this assertion adds to his record of such absurd accusations that are contrary to actually what can be substantiated.

Or course, he also imagines about 50% of the military are Catholic, and seemingly that blacks make up much of the evangelical church (vs. 6%).

Here, the statistical data is that 68% of all Latinos in the U.S. identify as Catholics, and Latinos comprised 32 percent of all U.S. Catholics even in 2008. 18% of all Latinos say they have either converted from one religion to another or to no religion at all. - http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html#DEMOGRAPHICS

53% of Hispanics identify as Catholic (69% as children), 13% identify as evangelical Protestant (7% as children) and 12% as mainline Protestant. 12% claim no religious affiliation (5% as children) and 6% identify with a non-Christian religion.

Hispanics who were born outside of the United States are more likely to identify as Catholic (64%) than Hispanics overall, and are less likely to identify as Protestant (9% mainline, 11% evangelical) or religiously unaffiliated (11%).

50% of Hispanics identify with the Democratic Party compared to just 15% who identify with the Republican Party, while 24% say they are politically independent.

Among Hispanic registered voters, 56% identify with the Democratic Party, compared to 19% who identify with the Republican Party and 19% who identify as independent.

68% of Hispanic Catholics and 60% of mainline Protestants and 57% of religiously unaffiliated Hispanics and 50% of Evangelical Protestants report having a favorable view of the Democratic Party, divided (50% favorable, 44% unfavorable).

Latino Catholics overwhelmingly supported Obama over McCain (72% to 26%). 68% of Hispanic voters report having voted for Barack Obama, while 29% report having voted for Mitt Romney.

33% of Hispanics report they currently have a close friend or family member living in the United States illegally.

80% of religiously unaffiliated Hispanics, and 62% of Hispanic Catholics, and 47% of Hispanic mainline Protestants support allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry, versus 21% of evangelical Protestants (79% oppose same-sex marriage).

52% of Hispanic Catholics say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, along with 74% of Evangelical Protestants.

30% of Hispanic Catholics say that having an abortion is morally wrong, compared to 7% who say it is morally acceptable. nearly 59% of evangelical Protestants say that having an abortion is morally wrong, compared to only 4% who say it is morally acceptable.

45% of Hispanic Catholics and 51% of mainline Protestants say that sex between two adults of the same gender is morally wrong, compared to 16% of Catholics and 19% of mainline Protestants who say it is morally acceptable.10% of Hispanic Catholics and 4% of mainline Protestants believe the morality of same gender sexual activity depends on the situation, and 27% of Catholics and 23% of mainline Protestants say it is not a moral issue.

72% of evangelical Protestants say that sex between two adults of the same gender is morally wrong, while 8% say it is morally acceptable. 6% say either that the morality of the behavior depends on the situation and 14% say that it is not a moral issue.

51% of Hispanic Catholics and mainline Protestants say that it is possible to disagree with church teachings on homosexuality and remain a good Catholic or Christian, versus 70% of evangelical Hispanic Protestants who say it is not possible to disagree with church teachings on the issue of homosexuality and remain a good Christian.

12% of Hispanic Catholics, and 22% of Hispanic mainline Protestants and 50% of Hispanic evangelicals report that religion is the most important thing in their lives.

Catholics and mainline Protestants do not differ in the frequency of their religious attendance from Hispanics overall, while evangelical Protestants are significantly more likely to attend religious services regularly.

5% of Hispanics report that they do not believe in God. Hispanic Catholics closely resemble Hispanics overall, with 59% believing God is a person and 32% believing God is an impersonal force. Mainline Protestants are significantly more likely than Catholics to believe God is a person (69%) and less likely to believe God is an impersonal force (25%). More than 8-in-10 (85%) evangelical Protestants believe God is a person with whom one can have a relationship. - http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/2013_HVS_FINAL.pdf

45% of Latino Catholics (versus 16 percent of White evangelical Christians, and 23% of Black Protestants) supported the rights of same-sex couples to marry;

And in California Latino Catholics are even more liberal than than white Catholics. 62% of California Catholics are Latino, and 57% of Latino Catholics say they would vote to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry in California, compared to 45% of white Catholics.- http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Catholics-and-LGBT-Issues-Survey-Report.pdf

Meaning according to hearsay testimony, the majority of the 15% of Hispanics who identify with the Republican Party and the 26% - 29% of conservative voters in the last Presidential elections come from the 68% of all Latinos in the U.S. who identify as Catholics. Yet it is Protestants who are the more conservative, and the most Republican, esp. evang. Prots, thus they are the ones who would provide most of the conservative vote.

Meanwhile, it is very evident that the the Republican Party has acted according to its image, not interacting with the immigrants and the lower class, allowing them to believe the party of the demonic victim-entitlement mentality is best for them in the long run. But since the Republican today vote too much like liberals of yesteryear, it seems, then perhaps that fitting.

We should do what we can as Christians have a unique share in this country, as shareholders, but i consider it as having gone off the edge. As with the NT church which has worse civil rulers, the focus must be on being distinct evangelical people, a holy nation within a nation, as being founded upon a solid Rock that will not roll, and anchor for our souls.

25 posted on 12/16/2014 7:09:59 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Alex Murphy; NKP_Vet; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
Majority of the Mexican freeloaders illegally come to American,protestants convert them, and they in turn vote for democrats who give them all the freebies. The devout hispanic Catholics that have lied in the US for generation after generation are Catholic and vote for republicans. My Mexican-American buddy I knew when I worked at the VA hospital, a retired Air Force master sergeant, relayed those facts to me.

Are you going to tell us that you didn't give any thought to his words? What was his military speciality? Counter-Ops?

"Facts" no less! If it impugns Prots, despite its broad definition, it must be true.

26 posted on 12/16/2014 7:24:07 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

NO getting around all those hispanic converts to protestantism voting for democrats. Who in the world do you think they’re going to vote for? Santa Claus that’s who! Keep converting and keep electing democrats.


27 posted on 12/16/2014 7:31:36 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

I don’t know how many Illegals, Mexican Green Card, or Americans of Mexican decent you live by, but your buddy is completely wrong on this one. I grew up around all the above and currently have several of all the above living within one mile of me no way no how is this the truth.


28 posted on 12/16/2014 8:05:30 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: Alex Murphy

Mexican catholics tend to find Yeshua, and his Way, that the catholic church has denied for all 1600 years since it was formed by Constantine.

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29 posted on 12/16/2014 8:08:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

>> “I can see why many people get frustrated with attending Mass.” <<

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So can I; its a pagan abomination, and a stench in the nostrils of God.

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30 posted on 12/16/2014 8:11:32 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NKP_Vet

>> “NO getting around all those hispanic converts to protestantism voting for democrats.” <<

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Great imagination!

Few of them vote at all; most can’t because they are not citizens.
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31 posted on 12/16/2014 8:14:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: daniel1212

Come to a border State and sit outside a Cath and Prot church and tell me which one has what. These comments actually have me laughing they are so ridiculous.


32 posted on 12/16/2014 8:15:59 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: editor-surveyor

http://www.catholicscomehome.org/discover-a-beautiful-faith/

The word “Catholic” means universal, and that is really what the Catholic Church is—a universal body of believers, united in Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Our Catholic family is made up of every race, age, and walk of life. For centuries, the Catholic Church has been the place to turn to for the source of Christian belief, an intimate encounter with Jesus Christ, a welcoming family, and a guiding light to get to heaven.
Why does it matter what church I belong to? In other words, what makes the Catholic Church different?

The Catholic Church is not just one denomination among many. In fact, it is the only faith that can trace its founding roots back to Jesus Christ, who started our Church. For 2,000 years, the Catholic Church has guarded the truth that Jesus has taught, whether in or out of style. In the Church today, one can experience the most personal relationship with Christ through the Holy Eucharist, the gift of Christ’s Body and Blood to us. Since its founding, the Catholic Church has continued to be the largest body of Christians on earth. Though it’s not perfect, nor does it have perfect members, the Church still contains the fullness of truth, which Jesus promised would set us free.
Are Catholic beliefs rooted in the Bible?

Not only are Catholic teachings rooted in the Bible, the Catholic Church, having been given authority by Jesus Christ and under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, compiled the Bible in the form that it exists today. The Catholic Church has as its sole rule of faith the entire Word of God, as it is found in Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition. It is important to remember that all of the Word of God was at one time (after the death of Christ and before the compilation of the Bible) passed on orally through Sacred Tradition. Catholic beliefs are all rooted in the Word of God—communicated through Scripture and Tradition, and preserved by the Church.


33 posted on 12/16/2014 9:14:53 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Vigilanteman

When government becomes your “be all” ‘god.’


34 posted on 12/16/2014 9:45:32 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: peyton randolph
This happens in Guadalupe Mexico. Here's a pic:
35 posted on 12/16/2014 9:55:13 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Alex Murphy

>>Precisely. Now why would the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops be attracted to, and courting, and enticing this particular group of people to continue breaking the law?<<

It’s because modern Catholics especially the clergy are liberals and Democrats. Thus bringing in more who will rely on government makes more votes for D.


36 posted on 12/16/2014 10:01:53 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: NKP_Vet

>>Majority of the Mexican freeloaders illegally come to American,protestants convert them, and they in turn vote for democrats who give them all the freebies. The devout hispanic Catholics that have lied in the US for generation after generation are Catholic and vote for republicans. My Mexican-American buddy I knew when I worked at the VA hospital, a retired Air Force master sergeant, relayed those facts to me.<<

Wow what a scientific poll you have there. Relay this fact back to your buddy. Southern and Southwest states are red states and vote Republican. These are also heavily Bible belt states. Blue DemonRat states are filled with Roman Catholics.


37 posted on 12/16/2014 10:06:17 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: NKP_Vet; daniel1212; Alex Murphy

Well my good friend and neighbor is Mexican American, a retired Command SGM which outranks your VA buddy. He says different. His Protestant family members vote Republican and his Catholic family members vote DemonRat. All the while bemoaning the “illegal” situation in San Antonio.

So he passed on this info to me so I know it’s accurate. Plus I have had a chance to chat with his family during his quarterly TexMex BBQs.


38 posted on 12/16/2014 10:19:19 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: editor-surveyor

I’ll have to send you a link to a discussion where a Catholic and EO argued the millennial kingdom was ushered in by Constantine and ended after WWI.


39 posted on 12/16/2014 10:22:16 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Yeah, they love their Jesus Malverde and accessing our welfare system.


40 posted on 12/16/2014 10:24:10 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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