Posted on 12/10/2014 6:32:20 AM PST by marshmallow
"Christian unity" is one of those terms that stir up a whole spectrum of—sometimes emotional—opinions.
On the one hand, we know that Jesus prayed to the Father concerning future believers "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you" (John 17:21a, NIV).
On the other hand, charismatics know it is almost pointless to discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12, 14) with Baptists or most anyone else from a mainline denomination. And Protestants of just about any stripe get riled up when they hear Catholics talking about papal infallibility or their adoration of the Virgin Mary.
It's on this latter point that Rick Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and successful author, has waded into a hornet's nest of controversy by telling a Catholic News Service interviewer that Protestants and Catholics "have far more in common than what divides us" and that Catholics do not "worship Mary like she's another god."
Regarding Warren's view that Catholics do not worship Mary, Matt Slick, writing on the website of the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry, goes into great detail with material from Roman Catholic sources that say Mary is "the all holy one," is to be prayed to, worshipped, that she "brings us the gifts of eternal life" and she "made atonement for the sins of man."
If that's not putting her in the place of Christ as a god-like figure to be worshipped, then what is it?
"We believe in Trinity, the Bible, the resurrection, and that salvation is through Jesus Christ. These are the big issues," Warren says. "But the most important thing is if you love Jesus, we're on the same team."
To Warren's point about being on the same team, Slick.....
(Excerpt) Read more at charismanews.com ...
Your ACCUSATION: not backed up with evidence.
Your probably think turkeys can FLY; too!
https://www.youtube.com/embed/lf3mgmEdfwg?rel=0&start=231&end=247
Why?
It has BOOKS REMOVED!!!!!
Should not a Catholic use the D-R???
Your honor; the witness is sputtering and making NO sense.
Can we not have a recess at this time?
Shouldn't you preface this with a prayer to M-ry?
I just KNEW it was either a TEAM effort; or M-ry was handling the mail!
Mine's been destroyed for YEARS!
That's why I am such an enigma to them!!
Wouldn't this be MORE accurate if you said "...what ROME has taught me that certain denominations teach"?
No. As af_vet explained, before the Incarnation, God appeared as visions or other manifestations (the burning bush for example) and/or His Word was delivered by messengers (Angels) who could be seen, but all of these phenomena were not Jesus, the Son of God, fully man and fully God.
(You give kitty goosebumps!)
Book?
Chapter?
Verses?
Oh?
In what way?
“Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you’re wrong.”
Tell me what that’s like since I really have no idea.
Wow, you really seem afraid that someone actually will ask you. I guess if one of your fellow Protestants was brave enough to do it, what would we see? At the very least that sola scriptura doesn’t work.
Been saying that for a long time. And when you have exactly zero prayers in Scripture addressed to anyone else in Heaven except the Lord, even out of the over 200 therein (including most of Psalms - though perhaps all are prayers - and presuming Ps. 119 consists of individual prayers, I have found a total of 205 prayers in the Bible Glory to God), to presume the Holy Spirit would neglect to leave this out is nigh unto blasphemy.
John 1:18 "No man hath seen God [the Father] at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him."John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save He [Jesus] which is of God, He [Jesus] hath seen the Father."
Genesis 3:8-9 "And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden. And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
Since I believe the Word of God, and believe Christ is not a liar, and because He said "no man has seen God the Father, except Himself," and the Word of God states says the "Lord GOD walked in the Garden," the most logical conclusion to reach from the plain meaning of the text is that He who appeared and walked in the Garden was the pre-incarnate Christ, not an angel (as angels cannot be called the Lord God), was not the Spirit, as the Holy Spirit has a Name and He is not called the Lord God, and the text does not state that the Lord God appeared as a 'wind' by which the Holy Spirit may be like (see John 3:8; "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit") and not someone or something that someone else claims who the Lord God may be which contradicts the Scripture.
Sooooo Obviously not!
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