Decisions decisions!
Posted on 12/09/2014 3:47:08 AM PST by Colofornian
...When ushered into the master bedroom of the Mormon patriarch Brigham Young at his winter home in St. George, Utah, a few years ago, I felt duty-bound to ask an obvious question: Where did the other women sleep?
Other women? The church tour guide blushed, and laser-stared me as if I’d blasphemed the Mormon Moses.
I wondered about arrangements and jealousies, the conjugal timing of a man who was married to 55 women, by most accounts. I didn’t ask about the sexual acrobatics of the great pioneer, just the spreadsheet logistics of managing all those spouses.
...The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints...has had a particularly hard time reconciling its radical founding principles with its white-bread contemporary image. Imagine Mitt Romney with a harem, and you have some idea of the kind of men who planted a new church in the West.
So, it’s been fascinating to watch the reaction to the acknowledgment last month by Mormon leaders that Joseph Smith...took as many as 40 wives. Some...women were also married to other men. One of his brides was a 14-year-old girl, or as church officials put it in an essay, she was “sealed” to Smith “several months before her 15th birthday.” Well, that changes everything.
Smith...came to his decision only under duress, the church explained: A sword-wielding angel forced him to take up a life of sanctioned promiscuity...
And there was a creepy grooming aspect in how the Mormon founder picked his brides. Mary Elizabeth Rollins was 12 years old when Smith told her...God had commanded him to take her as a plural wife, according to the author Linda King Newell. She later married him at 23, wife No. 9...
Remember when Mitt Romney tried to explain how his ancestors came from Mexico?...In fact, they were sexual fugitives...
(Excerpt) Read more at dailyastorian.com ...
“How can people with functioning brains accept this tripe?”
That all of these Hebraic tribes in North America were wiped out centuries ago in one cataclysmic battle that left behind not one single shred of archaeological evidence, and yet you doubt?
Oh ye of little faith.....
;^)
(I don't know about Brigham Young, but Joseph Smith for a while owned his own bar)
or more likely just did what your typical arab harem owner does. Grab one, have sex with them once, then toss them away with all the others. probably more common on this planet than most people realize.As is slavery.
It’s 19th century scientology, pure and simple. With a huge dollop of islamic polygamy thrown in so the church leaders get to play prophet pedophile, just like the ragheads.
Exactly. Slavery is ubiquitous in the islamic world, today, right now, this minute... but the only slavery we are allowed to talk about is pre-Civil War America.
Similar to the Shiite practice of temporary marriage as sanction to get it off with another woman, for as long as desired?
Unto this generation a second Mohammed, indeed!
Most of the women came from polygamous families. This was how they lived. They knew the rules. Some women refused to go along with it and some insisted on it.
Essentially, the woman ran the family unit because the father was gone. They liked the being the boss. Some of the fathers were off doing their Mission.
It was an interesting read.
Letters of Catharine Cottam Romney, plural wife / edited by Jennifer M. Hansen.
“Similar to the Shiite practice of temporary marriage as sanction to get it off with another woman, for as long as desired?”
Nah, more like married just so they can spend eternity together. I did a lot of reading on polygamy. When you have multiple wives, sex becomes more of a chore than a pleasure. Many of the modern polygamous patriarchs died with widows who were virgins. In a polygamous society, a man is not allowed to have more wives than the leader so they encourage the leader to marry.
Smith smoked and drank alcohol and coffee. Young changed that.
When the patriarch gets old, they push young girls at him. Maybe they were hoping it would give the old codger a chubbie but mostly they were hoping he would die. The men in the sect got the choice of the widows when the old man finally joined the saints.
Although some of the women would be virgins, the men would never admit it because it would imply that the patriarch wasn’t a Chippendale dancer in the rack.
Smith...A sword-wielding angel forced him to take up a life of sanctioned promiscuity...
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Oh yeah...of course...
(SNICKER)
Free love before free love was cool. :-)
Mark Twain has some fun with the logistics of polygamy in Roughing It (nothing salacious). It's all rather good-natured humor (at a time when extreme hostility to Mormons was common in the US). He claims that the morality of The Book of Mormon was "smouched" from the New Testament.
{And THIS is one of the reasons why Mormons STILL think they are practicing polygamy in 2014...and, no, don't expect an "essay" to be issued by the front office in SLC: There are at LEAST THREE Lds current "general authorities" who have been married in the Mormon temple -- supposedly "for eternity" -- each to TwO different women! Which means in Mormon terms, supposedly, upon all of their deaths & 'arrival' in Celestialville -- these men (Oaks, Perry, Nelson) each becomes an eternal polygamist}
What is absolutely "funny" is how these Mormon leaders eschew present-tense polygamy...
...do cartwheels to be linked with fundamentalist polygamy...
...skirt past their broader Mormon-wide polygamous past in thousands of ways thru the decades...
...all while personal polygamy supposedly awaits these three...
Can you say religious h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y???
(And somehow this "angel" didn't see fit to make a personal appearance to Joe's wife, Emma, eh? Hmmmmm...)
Polygamy: How it all got Started
Joe: Hey Emma! Guess what!?
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
Emma: WHAT!? You ding bat! Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says? After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
Joe: Books; schmooks. All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
Emma: "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
Joe: Silly Woman! You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
...and the rest is HISTORY...
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI CHAPTER 2
24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
Or even HERE:
1 Timothy 3:2-3
2. Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3. not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
1 Timothy 3:12
A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
Titus 1:6
An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
Emma: That's IT! I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
Can't you EVER get straight what GOD tells you???
Doctrines and Covenants 49:16 Wherefore, it is lawful that he should have one awife, and they twain shall be bone flesh, and all this that the cearth might answer the end of its creation;
Joe: DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!! Wait!!! I hear a voice again!!!
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS SECTION 132
51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
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