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Matrimony or Bust – Another Glimpse at the Why and How of Traditional Marriage’s Demise
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 12-07-14 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 12/08/2014 7:12:10 AM PST by Salvation

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Quoting a Brietbart article -- wow!
1 posted on 12/08/2014 7:12:10 AM PST by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


2 posted on 12/08/2014 7:12:49 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Popedude says, “Nevermind!”


3 posted on 12/08/2014 7:16:52 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ('The HERO of the (0bamacare) story is Mitt Romney' - "Stupid" Jonathan Gruber)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The argentine one.....


4 posted on 12/08/2014 7:18:32 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ('The HERO of the (0bamacare) story is Mitt Romney' - "Stupid" Jonathan Gruber)
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To: Salvation

Simply put, the risks outweigh the benefits for a large majority of men; we’re reaping what we’ve sown. The liberated women can enjoy the world they’ve created, as long as they don’t mind the masses of children babbling in foreign tongues that are looking to their tax revenues for food, clothing, and shelter.


5 posted on 12/08/2014 7:18:35 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I get so upset with all the man bashing. Women will pay for it in the long run.


6 posted on 12/08/2014 7:20:42 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

yep. Karma does definitely work doesn’t it?


7 posted on 12/08/2014 7:22:41 AM PST by txnativegop (Tired of liberals, even a few in my own family.)
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To: Salvation

The American people have never learned this lesson; what makes one think they ever will?


8 posted on 12/08/2014 7:26:24 AM PST by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Salvation

They are paying for it already; why do you think they are bemoaning the lack of marriage proposals? I don’t hear nearly as many men doing so.

American women get to “play man” now; that includes being worked and taxed to death - and they aren’t enjoying it...


9 posted on 12/08/2014 7:33:08 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Salvation

men are damned if they do and damned if they don’t: ridiculed as basement-dwellers for avoiding aggressive, demanding women with unrealistic expectations, or called rapists and misogynists merely for expressing sexual interest.


This reminds me that there is a small but growing movement, of organizations which seek foreign women for American men.

And the whole point of these organizations is to match men with women who were raised in more traditional cultures in other parts of the world. These women were raised differently than American women, and thus are more interested in a traditional marriage arrangement.

My own daughter thinks this is a disgusting activity, to see a partner who was raised in a more traditional culture as a wife. I would never do that myself, but can understand why men would seek such a woman.

Just thought I would throw that out there. Why would men seek someone who is not American as a wife??? Could it be that liberal American women are just not appealing to many men???? No matter how physically attractive, funny, appealing personality in other ways, etc. I think that many of these women are turning men off. Just my opinion.


10 posted on 12/08/2014 7:34:20 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Hammer meets nail. Good post.


11 posted on 12/08/2014 7:36:32 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Uncle Miltie; Salvation
Oh? Here's what the real Popedude (not Msgr Charles Pope, but Francis) really said:

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Presiding over the wedding of 20 couples in St. Peter's Basilica, Pope Francis celebrated marriage as the union of a man and woman playing complementary roles during their common journey through life.

"This is what marriage is all about: man and woman walking together, wherein the husband helps his wife to become ever more a woman, and wherein the woman has the task of helping her husband to become ever more a man," the pope said Sept. 14. "Here we see the reciprocity of differences."

Check thou it out:

Men and Women according to Francis(LINK)

12 posted on 12/08/2014 7:37:04 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ we form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." Romans 12:5)
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To: Salvation

My son went to a small, Christian high school. The girls in his class were only interested in the boys when prom rolled around. Other than that, the girls didn’t see the boys as potential mates, they saw them as competitors. And the girls learned this from their fathers.
We used to define success in this country as a loving marriage and family. Now, success is an 8,000 square foot home with a five car garage with a Porsche and Land Rover in it. Hollywood and the ad agencies have made their financial backers rich selling us emptiness.


13 posted on 12/08/2014 7:41:30 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Salvation

Excellent. The subtext to the real history of the nature of humankind is.... that a matriarchy does not do well, and/or is in constant contention over biological and cultural roles that are put there by Nature.

Hence the idiocy of a bull dyke trying to run for president because she’s so “smart”. Or forcing male physical and mental norms into our military fighting forces for reasons of politics, and thus..... reduced capability to fight and defend our country from invaders and usurpers.

The communist playbook... requires the destruction of religion and of natural marriage/family roles. In order to breakup society to replace it with ..... THEM.


15 posted on 12/08/2014 7:47:36 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Salvation

“Many commenters”

Thank you, Monsignor, for not polysyllabificationizing.

I mean, do “comentators” commentate? Or do they comment?


16 posted on 12/08/2014 7:53:30 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Salvation

Thanks to Rolling Stone, Lena Dunham and others, I’m much more worried about my son than I am my daughter.

I can equip my daughter to, largely, take care of herself. Martial
arts and firearms classes, knowing the potential consequences of drinking to excess, knowing to never take a drink unless you are absolutely confident of where it came from (stick to canned or bottled beer or wine that you’ve opened yourself), etc.

But how do I equip my son to deal with the potential for frivolious but life-destroying rape/sexual assault charges that could come at any time from any point on the compass? I mean, as someone said on another thread “Barry” from the Lena Dunham story is, years later, having his life ruined for the simple crime of having been a Republican at Oberlin.


17 posted on 12/08/2014 7:53:51 AM PST by tanknetter
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the girls didn’t see the boys as potential mates, they saw them as competitors

I've seen this too, and not just in high school, but college and graduate school.

I've also seen it in many marriages, where the husband and wife no longer try to work together as a unit to better their family as a whole, but actually compete against one another to the family's detriment.

18 posted on 12/08/2014 7:59:13 AM PST by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: Salvation

My 31 year old son is one of the angry ones. He is 0 - 3 on serious relationships and can catalogue unrealistic expectations and absurd fickle behavior at the drop of a hat. He can talk for hours on the subject.

His conclusion has been that women have no idea what they are looking for in men, so it is futile to try to accommodate their ever-changing demands. In addition, for most women his age, common decency, respect for others and tried and true moral values are routinely rationalized away and place no bounds on their behavior. Now, he just approaches life as he sees fit, and if they don’t like it, to hell with them. He believes his values, instincts and decision-making have been validated repeatedly as on target nearly all of the time.

What is truly eye-opening is that his Mom, from whom I have been divorced almost 14 years, is in the process of being put on the road by her pretty-boy husband who was my replacement. In recent discussions with my son about her current trials, she has been informed by my son that she treated me with the same types of absurd, fickle behavior and unrealistic expectations to which he was subjected by a recent girl friend . . . of which his Mom was highly critical. After being slapped back into reality by her son and exiting husband, my son thinks she now has an appreciation for the utter stupidity and injustice to which she subjected me. That’s too bad. It is about 14 years, one wrecked family and 4 wrecked lives too late.


19 posted on 12/08/2014 8:08:39 AM PST by RatRipper (No need to rob others; democRATS will steal and share a tiny bit with you.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you!


20 posted on 12/08/2014 8:12:05 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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