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Posted on 11/11/2014 4:27:47 AM PST by Zakeet
Mormon leaders have acknowledged for the first time that the church’s founder and prophet, Joseph Smith, portrayed in church materials as a loyal partner to his loving spouse Emma, took as many as 40 wives, some already married and one only 14 years old.
The church’s disclosures, in a series of essays online, are part of an effort to be transparent about its history at a time when church members are increasingly encountering disturbing claims about the faith on the Internet. Many Mormons, especially those with polygamous ancestors, say they were well aware that Smith’s successor, Brigham Young, practiced polygamy when he led the flock in Salt Lake City. But they did not know the full truth about Smith.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Sexual abuse rates very high in Utah. Affinity fraud just from 2009-2012 among Mormons in the billions...(have exact links if you want 'em)
As for perceived "good fruit"...God looks at the motivation. And, if the motivation is auditioning for godhood, I have it on good authority that an anti-idolatrous God doesn't appreciate "competition."
Who were they?
Who were they?
“Religion is a ritual and something Christians should not even have a part in.”—”our founding fathers”?
Usually that means America’s founding fathers, and what religion are you? I got the impression that you didn’t belong to a religion.
When religious persecution rears its ugly head in America — it’s a matter of when, not if — how many FReepers will willingly participate, how many will be silent because they agree, and how many more will be silent because they are afraid?
Ask yourselves — how does persecution start? Does it jump to violence, or begin with words? No one should be surprised when history repeats itself, FRiends.
Usually that means America’s founding fathers, and what religion are you? I got the impression that you didn’t belong to a religion.
And you are right, I belong to no religion.
I joined the elks club about 50 years ago but when initiation time came I had the feeling I was at a Satanist meeting so I quit.
What exactly do you mean?
So I originally responded to a pretty strange post, about “our founding fathers”.
See posts 23 and 77.
Ahh...the "persecution card" is played.
This, "When religious persecution rears its ugly head in America — it’s a matter of when, not if — how many FReepers will willingly participate, how many will be silent because they agree, and how many more will be silent because they are afraid?" is an attack on Christians and FReepers and this web site.
Please make note of this, AND the author fellow Christians!
Harry Reid is an exceptionally faithful and true Mormon, how can you dismiss him when the leaders of the church declare him exceptional?
Religious oppression in this country already at work...bakers who get forced out of business because they won't succumb to marital redefinition...
Prolifers who get assaulted at abortion clinics because of their stances for the preborn.
People who either lose their jobs or won't get promoted because they won't tow the line re: the "diversity" agenda.
Even in history, much of the 1960s Civil Rights movement was rooted in church-based leaders. And some of the KKK actions were against Catholicism as well as black Christians.
And the first 9/11 attack in America occurred in 1857 when the Mormons attacked the Fancher-Baker party moving thru Utah...had that party been Mormon...they would have had safe passsage. But because they weren't 120 girls, boys, their moms & dads were killed by mormons at point blank range; their horses & property stolen; their clothes ripped off the dead bodies, wash & reworn by Mormons in Southern Utah; and several small children -- the ones too young to testify against the Mormon murderers...kidnapped for a few years.
But I guess you've turned a blind eye to history & the present, eh?
By this insinuation, when Jesus called the Pharisees "sons" of the devil (John 8), then you think Jesus was the sparkplug of later "persecution" versus Jewish leaders?
(Give me a break...You need to watch who you wind up accusing by parallel examples)
A Mormon once blamed FREEPERs when a Mormon bishop was shot in Visalia several years back. 'Twas just a knee-jerk reaction...and before the Mormon poster realized that the shooter was tied to Mormonism!
So what happened to the Mormon poster for wading into these kinds of groundless accusations? (He got zotted)
When you get a FR poster beginning to accuse Christians & Christian FREEPERS that THEY are the reasons for murders, this is a poster to start watching for zottability!
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So I originally responded to a pretty strange post, about “our founding fathers”.
At any rate I was talking about the founders of the Jewish faith.
I’m simply asking a question, greyfoxx39 — I’m not trying to attack anyone, or anyone’s religion. I just want folks to stop and think about how things start, and what happens when good people lose their way.
America is losing its way, FRiend, in so many ways — and far too many folks refuse to recognize it. I may be wrong, but escaping religious persecution used to mean something in America.
You folks enjoy your discussion.
It'll get a whole lot more boring without your entertaining posts! I haven't had a good laugh at anybody for at least a few days.
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