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Joel Osteen: Origins & Errors of His Teaching (a Film by Keith Thompson)
http://www.youtube.com/user/KeithTruth ^ | 4-26-11 | Keith Thompson

Posted on 10/31/2014 7:11:40 AM PDT by fishtank

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To: LearnsFromMistakes

Really?

Prove it.

Show me where Jesus NEVER criticized false prophets.


21 posted on 10/31/2014 8:29:39 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Gamecock
Definitely more of a motivational message for sure, but do I believe Osteen is anti-Christ (not the anti-Christ), no.

I think Joel may be off message in areas, but I feel he is probably trying to lead folks to Christ that otherwise are not presently.

Perhaps the milk rather than the meat sort of speak. I dunno, guess I've just gotten a lil wore out by all the Christian backbiting and mixed messages.

Non-Christians look at Christians in many instances and think, “Geez, if they can't agree”.

22 posted on 10/31/2014 8:34:43 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: fishtank
Joel Osteen: Ro16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
23 posted on 10/31/2014 8:35:40 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: servantboy777

**Non-Christians look at Christians in many instances and think, “Geez, if they can’t agree”.**

So we should agree just to get along? Where do we draw the line?


24 posted on 10/31/2014 8:38:10 AM PDT by Gamecock (USA, Ret. 27 years.)
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To: fishtank
I plan to watch the video piece this weekend and get a lil better idea of this fella’s position.

I'm only commenting based off of things I've heard previously, but I do understand what the argument is regarding Joel and his wife.

I am an old traditionalist. If I had my way, I'd have all old hymns, stained glass, upside down boat gothic architecture, organ with big tall pipes, communion at every service, cassocks, smells and bells...you name it. lol

25 posted on 10/31/2014 8:39:59 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: fishtank

ping for later.


26 posted on 10/31/2014 8:41:32 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Gamecock
Agee on the essentials and don't sweat the small stuff is really my opinion.

> Christ the messiah of the world. His atoning blood.
> Holy Trinity - Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
> We stand before a holy God through Jesus’ righteousness alone. Ya can't earn your way to heaven.

If you search and search...finally find the perfect church, whatever you do, don't join it. You will ruin it with your presence. That's a joke folks.

Y'all have a great weekend.

27 posted on 10/31/2014 8:49:36 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Sans-Culotte

Yeah, looks like the Joker without the makeup.


28 posted on 10/31/2014 8:53:03 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SkyDancer
He reminds me of the character in Don Imus' book God's Other Son
29 posted on 10/31/2014 8:53:07 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: dblshot

Sounds like an interesting story, will see if the library has it.


30 posted on 10/31/2014 8:56:06 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: fishtank; Vision; Religion Moderator
It's because he is "heading down the wrong road". ... and he is dragging MILLIONS of people down "the wrong road".

One person is too many.

Why is Vision's posting of regular Osteen's propaganda considered a valid --and protected-- devotional for FR?

Why does the religion moderator so rigorously protect this daily posting that so many FReepers believe is promoting a cult?
31 posted on 10/31/2014 9:06:42 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Don Corleone
Jim and Tammy Baker 2.0

On steroids.
32 posted on 10/31/2014 9:09:46 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: servantboy777

Your post 22 is too full of contradictions of yourself in the same post.


33 posted on 10/31/2014 9:11:17 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: laweeks
Jim and Tammy Baker 2.0 on steroids!

Some similar minds are slower on the draw that others.
34 posted on 10/31/2014 9:13:21 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: servantboy777

What all those denominations have in common is they were birthed from the mother church-the roman catholic church..

and that is their problem- they accept the false premise that the greco roman Latin mother church represents the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and His Beloved Son Yahshua..

They do not... everything, right down to the greco roman latin name they use for the Hebrew savior, can be studied and explained away as a greco roman latin construct.
Dare one say a counterfeit or false savior..

That would really mess with the Joel Osteen’s program as much as the pope’s..

But the whole foundation of Christendom would be at stake with that study...


35 posted on 10/31/2014 9:16:51 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: servantboy777

Pardon my first post to you. It was your Yoda-speak that misled my comprehension of your point. Carry on.


36 posted on 10/31/2014 9:16:56 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: servantboy777
Scores of denominations within the protestant faith that all profess to be Christian. They all teach various doctrines of the faith...do they not?

Not necessarily.

It's not an accurate conclusion to come to that just because there are different denominations, that they all interpret the Bible differently and that there are thousands of interpretations of Scripture.

There are a few areas where there are major differences, but there are many areas, that are not matters essential for salvation, where there is liberty to believe as you will. That even exists within Catholicism, as evidenced by the number of *rites* that exist in it.

Statements of faith for different churches

Assemblies of God
http://ag.org/top/Beliefs/Position_Papers/index.cfm#

Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church
http://arpchurch.org/documents/confession-of-faith/

Calvary Chapel
http://calvarychapel.com/home/about/

The Christian and Missionary Alliance
http://www.cmalliance.org/about/history/

Elim Fellowship Churches
http://www.elimfellowship.org/about-us/statement-of-faith/

The Father's House
http://tfhny.org/the-house/what-we-believe/

Osais LA
http://www.oasisla.org/about/what-we-believe/

Presbyterian Church in Americahttp://www.pcaac.org/resources/wcf/

United Reformed church in North America https://www.urcna.org/sysfiles/site_uploads/custom_public/custom2642.pdf

Westside Christian Fellowship
http://westsidechristianfellowship.org/about-wcf/statement-of-faith/

37 posted on 10/31/2014 9:18:15 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: delchiante

Can you be a little more obtuse in what you’re trying to communicate?


38 posted on 10/31/2014 9:18:37 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: servantboy777
The Bible (God's Word) is the sword which divides what is of the flesh, from what is of the Spirit. As long as we follow it, we have no problems. Joel Osteen, and many other false preachers now days, use it only as a stage prop without ever opening it... "This is my bible. I believe what it says..."
39 posted on 10/31/2014 9:19:29 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: fishtank

Show me where I said Jesus never criticized false prophets.

(Hint, I didn’t).

The religious people of His day called out prostitutes, tax gatherers and such. Then the religious people drug them to Jesus to see what He would do.

The ‘lamb slain from the foundation of the world’ first ‘called out’ the religious people (hypocrites). Then charged the accused to ‘go and sin no more’. Jesus had the authority to do that be cause HE DIED FOR THEM - both camps.

If we use Him as our example, I believe we can judge - after we have laid down our life for them. I don’t think Jesus took pleasure in calling out the religious/hypocrites in His day. As I read these threads, I think most of the ‘righteous judgements’ thrown out don’t meet His standard.


40 posted on 10/31/2014 9:29:13 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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