[Colofornian]

Other times things are misrepresented or stated out of context, sometimes it appears intentionally, sometimes in error. For example, the claim that Joseph Smith is who approves our admittance into heaven. Again, technically that is not true, but explaining that completely would take pages. In short, we feel the leaders of each dispensation will testify as to what law was binding at that time (for example, sacrificing animals versus faith/baptism). That doesn’t mean that Moses or Joseph Smith will judge us or admit us to heaven. Christ still judges us. Like I said, it would take pages to explain that well. I also recognize that these misstatements or misrepresentations happen on both sides of the discussion. And I trust that most of these are unintentional or innocent. But there are some that clearly repeat falsehoods, even when corrected.

You know..T.P. if you to a middle chart at a link...you can find over a dozen Mormon authoritative references to this: Mormon Tabernacle Choir conductor: 'Praise to the Man'...hymn praises Joseph Smith [Smithmas vanity]

I find it rather difficult to believe...that had you lived in SLC circa pre civil war & early civil war times ... you would tell a certain tabernacle speaker ... nope you are statin a falsity upon sayin...: no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith. From the day that the Priesthood was taken from the earth to the winding-up scene of all things, every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are—I with you and you with me. I cannot go there without his consent. He holds the keys of that kingdom for the last dispensation—the keys to rule in the spirit world;

Or...1974...as deseret book co...owned by ldsism...said: Deseret Book Co. publishes a book of discourses and writings of one of its top three hierarchists from the 19th century, George Q. Cannon, who announces: "If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]" (Lds "apostle" George Q. Cannon) Editor Jerreld L. Newquist, Gospel Truth: Discourses and Writings of President George Q. Cannon, Vol. 1, p. 255 Deseret Book Co.

[Colofornian]

Anybody looking at the linked chart I provided last post about lds “prophets” and first presidents referencing Smith as being the heavenly kingdom “passport” or “consenter” or kingDom “certificate” provider or as the absolute one we need to confess alongside Jesus would be quite bewildered if you had been there during any of those public statements when they were made had you said to each leader...”well what you are claiming is not ‘technically true’”...you see you must think you can get away with making this an issue about me and my alleged misinterpretation...when anybody taking these statements at face value...in context and even not if these words are to carry basic straightforward meaning...can see for themselves what these leaders claimed about smith...throw thsee leaders under the bus if you must...stop blaming me for their having been historically uttered