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Pope Francis: 'Corruption Is a Greater Evil than Sin'
Breitbart ^ | 10/23/2014 | Thomas D. Williams

Posted on 10/25/2014 10:07:01 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne

Corruption is like “bad breath,” says Pope Francis, “it is hard for the one who has it to realize it; others realize it and have to tell him.”

In an address to a delegation of the International Association of Penal Law this morning, Francis commented on a variety of troubling international legal issues, including the widespread problem of corruption, which he called “a greater evil than sin.”

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KEYWORDS: catholic; corruption; sin
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To: Dr. Thorne

A Catholic’s message to Pope Francis: Just shut your mouth and stop it with the idiocy. After that, resign as Pope, go back to Argentina, find a cave in the middle of nowhere and become a hermit.


21 posted on 10/25/2014 11:16:21 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: Dr. Thorne
From the Office of Vatican Translation...

Official Notice from the Office of Vatican Translation:

We are experiencing some difficulties with the updated version of Google Translate that we use for all official announcements from the Vatican. We blame The Google for this problem!

Still, even if Google were not a worse evil than corruption, there will be misunderstandings when the Glorious & Pure Language of Rome is translated into the confusing and imprecise guttural, language of English.

Please follow these general rules of understanding our Exalted Pope:

1. If the Media reports the Pope said something you do not like, it is due to Media Bias.

2. If you read something our Great Pope said and it conflicts with what you have been taught, it is because of The Evil of The Google Translate! [It is probably Media Bias also]

3. Refer to Rules 1 and 2 under every other circumstance!

Thank you very much for your patience and understanding during these evil days. Please do buy indulgences for your departed loved ones, who are suffering, so that we can fund development of an in-house translation service.


22 posted on 10/25/2014 11:18:27 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Perhaps.

But you've gotta' admit he has the gift of gab. ;^')

23 posted on 10/25/2014 11:19:51 AM PDT by BlueDragon (Cry Havoc, and let slip the canines and kittens of youtube!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Notice from the Vatican Office of Translation

It has come to our attention that we are being made the scapegoats of everything the Pope says, as if we are not doing our jobs. This is inaccurate. We are not charged with perfection in translation. In fact, none of us speak a second language at all!

This may surprise many readers of this notice, so I will describe our role here at Ground Zero... Vatican City or VeeCee, as we call it.

First, just months ago, we were all homeless on the Streets of Rome. The translation office is a jobs program for homeless Italians. Through the kindness of the Great leaders at VeeCee, 8 of us were recruited to a very fulfilling job with benefits. Many of us previously used Google Translate, so we had every qualification needed. Please note, our instructions are to get the message out fast. You may have noticed our Great Pope speaks "off the cuff" quite frequently, or as we say here in VeeCee, "between bites of pasta."

For this reason, we are not charged with accuracy, but with speed. Blinding speed. And between you and me, we are fast. We don't like to miss meals. Done is done. Good enough, is good enough.

With this in mind, please try to speak kindly of us so that we can continue in this important role.

Sincerely,
Luigi, Antonio, Giuseppe, Michael, Maria, Giovanna, Francesco, & Concetta


24 posted on 10/25/2014 11:22:26 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Someone needs to ask the guy, “can you define what you mean by corruption”.


25 posted on 10/25/2014 11:23:03 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Dr. Thorne

Corruption is like “bad breath,” says Pope Francis, “it is hard for the one who has it to realize it; others realize it and have to tell him.”

Is the realization of others, factually definitive of “corruption” or is their “realization” a matter of opinion.


26 posted on 10/25/2014 11:24:55 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Mrs. Don-o
If but it were just sloppy rhetoric Mrs. Don-o.

It sounds to me like populist theology. There is a definite liberation theological world view with this pontiff. The idea that "true" evil only resides in oppressive power structures. It's not heretical so much as naive IMHO.

That said, I have no real worries for the Church. It may suffer at times but it will always persist.

27 posted on 10/25/2014 11:26:53 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Wuli
Say five Hail Marys and use this....


28 posted on 10/25/2014 11:31:32 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Pope Francis talks way too casually and way too much. How I miss Benedict’s beautiful precision.


29 posted on 10/25/2014 11:34:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LOL! And I’m laughing at the classy comment about halitosis!


30 posted on 10/25/2014 11:56:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Francis is going to lead the Church to schism. He’s pushing the envelope in every way imaginable. To even permit a debate within Church councils about legitimizing homosexuality is apostacy.


31 posted on 10/25/2014 12:06:06 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: GeronL

Good point. I’ll bet we’ve got that one coming.


32 posted on 10/25/2014 12:13:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ebola and Enterovirus-D68. Proud members of Viruses Without Borders.)
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To: dufekin
Almost certainly, the words of Pope Francis sounded better, properly contextualized in their original language. The translator (or interpreter) obviously missed some subtlety in the original Italian.

Once or twice. Maybe.

Daily?

No. There's something wrong with what he's saying.

It's been a continual thing since he became pope.

33 posted on 10/25/2014 12:38:33 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
An institution, however imperfect, which calls sin "sin" is far, far less corrupt than an institution that calls sin "Pride" and says "Let's have a parade."

Well put.

34 posted on 10/25/2014 12:55:54 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: littleharbour
As Pope Francis sees it --- as I decipher his somewhat nebulous prose --- the 'legitimization' of homosexuality was never suggested by anybody. The issue was, rather, the welcoming of sinners, including homosexuals. In other words, how do we do evangelical outreach and pastoral care?

I realize that's pretty neuralgic, but here's how he put it in the final talk of the synod:

"And this always – we have said it here, in the Hall – without ever putting into question the fundamental truths of the Sacrament of marriage: the indissolubility, the unity, the faithfulness, the fruitfulness, that openness to life (cf. Cann. 1055, 1056; and Gaudium et spes, 48)."

"Indissolubility" would pertain to "one spouse until death breaks the bond."

"The fruitfulness, that openness to life" would pertain to the fundamental nature of generative, marital sexual union, i.e., no contraception, no buggery. This would entail the logical conclusion of, no same-sex unions.

However, even his clarifications seem ambiguous.

To me, that's the problem: not outright, blunt heresy and apostasy, but the rather slippier thing of ambiguity and confusion. I've been warning, "Confusion is mightier than the catechism." Because we're exposed to the corrosive influence of the confusion daily. We don't get the "catechism" anymore unless we dig into it ourselves.

I'd like to do an "outreach" campaign on the following theme:


There's a welcoming place for you in every Catholic parish.

.

(I do wish I could find a slightly better picture.)

35 posted on 10/25/2014 1:11:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: jocon307

**Isn’t anything that could be described as “corruption” a sin?**

Exactly.


36 posted on 10/25/2014 2:35:08 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: dufekin

The sin John is referring to is not believing in the Life, Death, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ as being the deadly sin. Sin isn’t deadly if forgiven by the Shed Blood of Jesus Christ. Your interpretation is clearly suited to fit you catechism or something to that effect. All sin has the same penalty of Hell if not forgiven by our Savior!


37 posted on 10/25/2014 8:21:22 PM PDT by mrobisr
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well said! I was thinking along similar lines but saw that you had already made the point, better than I would have.


38 posted on 10/26/2014 4:14:27 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: jocon307

I thought it was very clear. Pope Francis explained that a person with corruption must be cured, as he does not even see his sin, before he can be saved. Reasonably, corruption spreads and one can see how it can be counted as a worse evil than one that infects only one life and is acknowledged or known to the sinner.


39 posted on 12/08/2014 9:00:27 AM PST by Infonymph
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To: jocon307

I thought it was very clear. Pope Francis explained that a person with corruption must be cured, as he does not even see his sin, before he can be saved. Reasonably, corruption spreads and one can see how it can be counted as a worse evil than one that infects only one life and is acknowledged or known to the sinner.


40 posted on 12/08/2014 9:38:18 AM PST by Infonymph
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