Posted on 10/24/2014 12:25:52 PM PDT by marshmallow
There was no agreement at the synod on homosexuality and divorce, but in the end it will be the pope who decides. And he already has in mind the changes he wants to introduce, or rather is already putting them into practice. A commentary by Paul Anthony McGavin
ROME, October 24, 2014 – It is not true that Francis was silent during the two weeks of the synod. In the morning homilies at Saint Martha’s, he hammered away every day at the zealots of tradition, those who load unbearable burdens onto men, those who have only certainties and no doubts, the same against whom he lashed out in the farewell address with the synod fathers.
He is anything but impartial, this pope. He wanted the synod to orient the Catholic hierarchy toward a new vision of divorce and homosexuality, and he has succeeded, in spite of the scanty number of votes in favor of the change of course, after two weeks of fiery discussion.
In any case, he will be the one who ultimately decides, he reminded the cardinals and bishops who may have had any doubts. In order to refresh their memory on his “supreme, full, immediate, and universal” power, he brought to the field not a handful of refined passages from “Lumen Gentium,” but the rock-solid canons of the code of canon law.
On communion for the divorced and remarried, it is already known how the pope thinks. As archbishop of Buenos Aires, he authorized the “curas villeros,” the priests sent to the peripheries, to give communion to all, although four fifths of the couples were not even married. And as pope, by telephone or letter he is not afraid of encouraging some of the faithful who have remarried to receive communion without worrying about it, right away....
(Excerpt) Read more at chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it ...
Either he does not believe in the Real Presence or he has little time for Paul's words about reception of the sacrament in Ch 11 of 1Corinthians.
Let’s ask Pope Honorius I how well his ideas of reform turned out.
Actually, God is the one who ultimately decides. So far, when Popes have gone bad, as they have from time to time, God has reined them in at the times when it really has mattered.
Let us pray that God continues to watch over His Church. Sometimes it seems that Francis is not so much a person of ill intentions as a flake. If so, even flakes can see the light. Or be removed, if that proves necessary.
“he hammered away every day at the zealots of tradition”
Wow, I hope this isn’t true, but the things he says like “God is not afraid of new things” seems to heavily suggest it is.
I don’t understand. The same people who chose this Pope will choose the next.
Well, the same people that chose Jimmy Carter chose Ronald Reagan.
People change...somewhat.
Yep. It just comes down to this. Real Presence or not? I’ve been to Mass at St. Peters and I can tell you: it’s the Real Presence! What an experience.
Perhaps they will do better the next time. Regardless, he has to go. He is a disaster and getting worse.
Also the same can be said about Obama!
The test of meeting Jesus is in what you get moved to do.
I don’t even understand that remark.
I am not a Protestant and I have no intention of becoming one any time soon.
I want to know if the Pope believes in the Real Presence, ok?
Good point. And, the previous pope, Joseph Ratzinger, didn't think the Holy Spirit has much to do with it:
"I would not say so, in the sense that the Holy Spirit picks out the Pope. … I would say that the Spirit does not exactly take control of the affair, but rather like a good educator, as it were, leaves us much space, much freedom, without entirely abandoning us. Thus the Spirit’s role should be understood in a much more elastic sense, not that he dictates the candidate for whom one must vote. Probably the only assurance he offers is that the thing cannot be totally ruined...There are too many contrary instances of popes the Holy Spirit obviously would not have picked!
-- from the Patheos article Does the Holy Spirit pick the pope? Ratzinger didn’t think so.
I would get the expected chides from the usual suspects telling me the gates of hell won't prevail against the church. What church? Which church? The one that rapes alter boys and covers it up? The one that showed up for Ted Kennedy's funeral after his life of murder and debauchery? I know Godly men and this ain't it.
Only a brave few priests ever withheld Eucharist, or even let out a peep. Pelosi visited the pope and stated abortion was Not a settled issue before the sun set that day, and it barely raised a kerfuffle.
The Saint Malachy prophesy has been discussed several times and now I fear it's here. Evangelical Christians have explained to me that in Revelation, Babylon is Rome, The harlot in Babylon was the pope, and the city on 7 hills is Rome. The doctrine of demons mentioned in Timothy is "forbidding to marry". The false prophet was the pope aligning the "new world religion" with the beast.
I have to say, if the new pope changes the stance of the Church to support sodomy, that has to say something to the Church. Many churches have already fallen to support gay marriage trying to keep up with the culture.
Revelation 18: 2--24 is referring to the destruction of the Roman church, according to them, and God has people there that he asks to "come out of her".
The point of this post is, How far will we go before we question what is happening today, as we blog. Not what some paper says from hundreds of years ago, but what is in front of our eyes right now.
In my opinion, we are watching the destruction of Catholicism in front of our very eyes. There is NO WAY to reconcile sodomy with the teaching of the Church. If someone wants to change eating meat on Friday, or what language is spoken in mass, give the reasoning and do it, fine. But sodomy? What can the new pope possibly say that can change thousands of years of doctrine? If the whole Bible is about the marriage of Jesus to His church, how can the church ever support divorce? Considering our stance on birth control, how can we condone abortion? You say "We haven't condoned abortion.", but how do we explain Pelosi, Kerry, Biden, and any Kennedy, still receiving Sacraments from the church?
Like I said, this has been welling up in me for decades. I'm not one to follow the traditions of men, and if we can change our stance on sodomy, something is very wrong in Rome.
Ratzinger would be right.
“On communion for the divorced and remarried, it is already known how the pope thinks. As archbishop of Buenos Aires, he authorized the “curas villeros,” the priests sent to the peripheries, to give communion to all, although four fifths of the couples were not even married. And as pope, by telephone or letter he is not afraid of encouraging some of the faithful who have remarried to receive communion without worrying about it”
All the more reason why he should have never been chosen pope and all the more reason why the Catholic Church will lose untold millions of faithful Catholics if this heretic (that’s right I said it) is not removed from the papacy.
Even Protestants who don’t believe in the real presence appear to maintain some standards on who can receive.
it’s worse than that. In poor countries, many women in the slums are deserted by their “husbands”, or their “Common law” husbands, since the church is so compassionate that they no longer insist that marriage is important.
Worse, since there are few jobs for women, it means serial “cohabitation”.
Even worse than that, co habitation often means the man mistreats the step children from the previous man the woman “cohabited” with (many end up as street kids). And, of course, he can leave her at any time.
What is the solution? Well one reason the evangelicals are making so many converts is that they insist on fidelity. So they are improving the slums one family at a time...and women, of course, prefer to marry a man they can rely on.
Cohabitation is not just about sex, but about trust, about child welfare, and about exploitation of those who have little power.
Way to go, bishops.
“All the more reason why he should have never been chosen pope and all the more reason why the Catholic Church will lose untold millions of faithful Catholics if this heretic (that’s right I said it) is not removed from the papacy.”
May the good Lord take a liking to you
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