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Lecture by Dr. Adam Miller, Professor of Philosophy: 'Zombies, Vampires, and the Book of Mormon'
ClaremontMormonStudies.org ^ | Dr. Adam Miller

Posted on 10/21/2014 5:16:46 AM PDT by Colofornian

When: September 18, 2014 @ 7:30 pm - 9:00 pm

Where: Albrecht Auditorium Claremont Graduate University The Claremont Colleges,925 North Dartmouth Avenue,Claremont,CA 91711 USA

Title: “Zombies, Vampires, and the Book of Mormon”

Abstract: Zombies and vampires bend the rules of time. Death arrives for them but, even after its arrival, their lives continue. They die but, rather than passing on to the next world, they continue in this one. In this sense, zombies and vampires model an important aspect of Christian life: the Christian’s preemptive abandonment of their own life (their willingness to be crucified with Christ), in order to begin a second life in the time that remains before passing on to the next. This reshuffling of time’s otherwise orderly chronology – a reshuffling where ends arrive early and lives continue out of step with their own passing – is crucial to the operation of grace and repentance. More, this Christian refusal to abide by the rules of chronology is also key to understanding the Book of Mormon’s own special brand of historicity.

Author bio: Adam S. Miller is a professor of philosophy at Collin College in McKinney, Texas. He and his wife, Gwen Miller, have three children. He received an MA and PhD in philosophy from Villanova University as well as a BA in Comparative Literature from Brigham Young University...

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TOPICS: General Discusssion; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: lds; mormonism; vampires; zombies
From the lecture abstract description:

Abstract: Zombies and vampires bend the rules of time. Death arrives for them but, even after its arrival, their lives continue. They die but, rather than passing on to the next world, they continue in this one. In this sense, zombies and vampires model an important aspect of Christian life...

....OOOOOOOOOOKayyyyyyyyyyy

So here is a Mormon philosophy prof using Stephenie Meyer's Twilight Vampire theme (who is is also Mormon) to describe Mormon theology at a college campus. And vampires and zombies are s'posed to be our "Christian life...model."

(A cup of occult tea, anyone?)

(In case you missed yesterday's posting of The OTHER WORLD series: Mormon Vampires in the Garden of Eden [The OTHER WORLD series])

1 posted on 10/21/2014 5:16:47 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Islam: A violent and tyrannical political ideology devised by a sociopath.

CoLDS: A pacifistic and tyrannical political ideology devised by a social outcast.

J. Jones Church: A violent and tyrannical political ideology devised by a sociopath.

Heaven’s Gate: A pacifistic and tyrannical political ideology devised by a social outcast.

C. Manson / SLA: A violent and tyrannical political ideology devised by a sociopath.

I think I see a pattern here...


2 posted on 10/21/2014 5:25:43 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Colofornian; Elsie

(A cup of occult tea, anyone?)
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Now, now C you know Mormons may not drink tea...

They may own breweries and sell and drink booze...

They can even bath in it like Cleopatra and her milk..

but they do not drink tea..


4 posted on 10/21/2014 6:04:09 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian

Mormons are zombies—spiritually dead in a dying body.

But the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)

One must believe the gospel to be saved (1 Corinthians 15:1-2) And there is only one gospel and it ain’t the Mormon false gospel. Let anyone who brings another gospel other than what the bible teaches be accursed. (Galatians 1:9)


5 posted on 10/21/2014 6:07:28 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: teppe
...but it's true!
If you get bit by a mormon you become one.
6 posted on 10/21/2014 6:23:41 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Colofornian

What?
Zombie and vampires = Christian life


7 posted on 10/21/2014 6:32:25 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: teppe

Not anti-mormon, exposure of mormonISM
By not mentioning the article, one can surmise you agree with the premise mormonISM equals vampires and zombies


8 posted on 10/21/2014 6:34:29 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: teppe

A Freeper puts up a thread about an obvious nutcase, and all you can do is criticize him for posting it?

Seriously?


9 posted on 10/21/2014 7:29:16 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Colofornian

Since it was just an abstract it is hard to tell what he was talking about, he could have just been talking about what the book said.

He is a professor, nonsense is much of what they are all about.


10 posted on 10/21/2014 8:16:33 AM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Now, now C you know Mormons may not drink tea...

Sure they can! (as long as it isn't HOT...)

It's MEAT that they are not supposed to eat. (Sorry Mormon vampires; but BLOOD is probably considered to be in the MEat CATEGORY.)

11 posted on 10/21/2014 9:40:56 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OneWingedShark

That’s how my sister turned into a MOOSE!


12 posted on 10/21/2014 9:41:34 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CatherineofAragon; teppe
A Freeper puts up a thread about an obvious nutcase, and all you can do is criticize him for posting it?

That's ALL he CAN do!

Well; he COULD denounce THESE quotes; but it would be a first on FR!



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

13 posted on 10/21/2014 9:43:46 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Mormons and mooses and the great outdoors...

British firm offers zombie-proof log cabin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3217884/posts


14 posted on 10/21/2014 10:15:57 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian
The best experts on Mormons are those who reject them, Mormonopolists

It is the same as trusting that Nancy Pelosi is an expert on theTea-Party.

CAUTION!! CHRISTIAN BASHING THREAD!!
This thread does not praise God. It weakens faith

15 posted on 10/21/2014 12:45:01 PM PDT by laotzu
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To: laotzu; narses

N; can I use your One Trick Pony image??


16 posted on 10/21/2014 7:25:51 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: laotzu
This thread does not praise God. It weakens faith

I can't help what those guys said in reply #13.

They were Mormons...

17 posted on 10/21/2014 7:27:07 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

How can you be more right....do not know


18 posted on 10/21/2014 8:15:33 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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