Posted on 09/11/2014 12:08:50 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
BTW, I clicked your link and it went nowhere. Puzzling ..
And yes, I note your observation about statutory versus case law. There is some merit to the analogy you propose, but to be fully consistent, you would then also have to recognize that case law is mutable and can change course, but the statutes are fixed by the legislature, which in our analogy would be the Supreme Legislator, God Himself. Which is why at any point a good attorney will know when he/she should challenge a precedent case law as a misinterpretation of the statute, just as Jesus challenged the precedents of the Jewish magisterium. Sometimes that is the only right way to proceed, though it can lead to considerable resistance.
Peace,
SR
If they were on FR I would gladly do so. since they're not (to the best of my knowledge) you can give them this reference. https://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/abortio2.htm:
Exact wording from the CCL:
TITLE VI. DELICTS AGAINST HUMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM (Cann. 1397 - 1398) Can. 1397 A person who commits a homicide or who kidnaps, detains, mutilates, or gravely wounds a person by force or fraud is to be punished with the privations and prohibitions mentioned in ⇒ can. 1336 according to the gravity of the delict. Homicide against the persons mentioned in ⇒ can. 1370, however, is to be punished by the penalties established there. Can. 1398 A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a latae sententiae excommunication.
Your relatives are certainly free to ignore this, just as many people choose to ignore speed limits or laws about driving intoxicated. sooner or later it will catch up with them.
God always gets the final word and the last laugh.
On that point, at least, we fully agree:
Psa 2:2-5 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, (3) Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. (4) He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. (5) Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
Peace,
SR
gnosis.org/library/marcion/Harnack.html
cut and paste. I guess since it’s html it does not hot link.
I heard that. For me it's the eyes. My books remain boxed up since I moved two years ago - I much prefer electronic media wherein I can comfortably increase the font and do away with bothersome glasses.
But what remains a caution to me is that if I need to recall something from a book, I can immediately picture the correct one in my mind (complete with wear and tear), and in going to that book, I can usually hit what I want from it in a few minutes... To recall something from online is far more troublesome - I think because it lacks input from auxiliary senses, perhaps... I DO miss slogging around in musty old tomes - I really do.
Greek? Well, they have the best food; Russians have the best liurgical music. Dogma is the same. As with the Antiochians but as with the Greeks,[...]
Uhoh... Did I misspeak? I know 'Orthodox' is right - Forgive me if I assumed... So which is it then?
I find myself distracted and confounded by the Byzantine chant. I'm sure that's the American in me.
Yeah, I'm more a Country Gospel music guy myself... beats all that weird moaning and whining hands-down (no offense meant).
Thanks. The trick is to have the http:// prefix in place. It’ll pick up the link if there are no other html things floating around in your post.
http://gnosis.org/library/marcion/Harnack.html
Perhaps you forget that your Master is one among that 'group of people'... As were most of His immediate followers.
Do not boast against the branches.
I don't see how that changes anything.
That was pathetic. Catholics claim no proof for Sola Scriptura in scripture thinking it’s a gotcha yet can’t come up with scripture for one of their most important dogmas so post that thinking it’s somehow going to make them look good. Pathetic, just pathetic.
They decided to speak to the Head Rabbi. They explained the situation to him and he said the exact same thing happened with my son. He spent a year in Jerusalem and came back Catholic.
The three men decided to talk to God.
The Head Rabbi explained to God how there three sons had spent time in Israel and all converted to the Catholic Church.
There was a long pause and God said" Ya know the exact same thing happened ......."
Good one!
Which did happen with the iconoclast heresy.
but the statutes are fixed by the legislature, which in our analogy would be the Supreme Legislator, God Himself.
Which leaves the question of the authority / venue for settling disputes. Insisting that it must be words on paper (or papyrus) won't stand up to logical and historical scrutiny. This is not a denigration of the Scriptures, at all. But, it is an affirmation of the teaching office of the Bishops. Doctrine must be in harmony with the Scripture, rightly divided.
In my journey, I looked for the Church after the events recorded in the 66 books had passed. I looked for who had the "say so" and what THEY said and how that turned out in the intervening centuries.
And isn't it case law that got us so far from the constitution?
Let’s keep the apples separated from the oranges.
Alas, I think that you and I came to very different conclusions in that regard.
“You are a Catholic who does not understand his Church.”
No, the problem is that the malice in your heart will not allow you to see things as they are.
I figured you wouldn’t like that one. Judges making laws or magisterium making dogma. Same thing. It leads away from the original document.
“Please show where the assumption of Mary is found in scripture.”
The odd notion of sola scriptura is not merely false, it is patently ridiculous.
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/immaculate-conception-and-assumption
“Peter’s statement to Yashua that He is the Christ is the rock He was mentioning - He wasn’t calling Peter the rock”
Don’t you know what Peter’s name—or rather nickname—means?
Jesus said, “Dude, you are “The Rock,” and on this Rock I will build My Church.”
Your ridiculous misinterpretation would be risible, if it did not carry with it the danger of leading souls to Hell.
Bait declined.
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