Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

Charisma News ^ | 9/5/2014 | Jennifer LeClaire

[Jan_Sobieski]

Pope Francis has been a breath of fresh air for many Catholics seeking greater liberty and a growing concern for conservative Christians who take issue with his comments about homosexuality and other cultural issues.

But the pontiff's latest statement is sparking an uproar from believers around the world. Pope Francis sent a tweet Tuesday that absolutely violates the truth of Scripture:

"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.

As of the time I wrote this column it had been retweeted about 4,000 times and many of the responses were in appropriately unkind. It's not appropriate to attack the pope for his beliefs. It's more appropriate to share the truth...

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

Or maybe its a certain level of fatalism that protestants share with the muslims.

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So please tell us how having Muslim koran reading and prayers at the vatican made things better.

Go to a mirror point your finger and repeat your accusations. You’ll have the pleasure of condemning the guilty one.

[metmom]

I suspect I'll be waiting a long time, however. Perhaps they could also explain how the future of protestantism and all of the defects it entails will be able to overcome the theological relativism it created which has become a mainstay of modern western religious thought.

It's not Protestantism which is causing the problems but rather mainstream denominations which have ABANDONED Scripture and count it as fable and fairy tales, which have led to liberalism.

Those who hold to the integrity of Scripture lean conservative. They recognize the intrinsic value of people simply on the basis of the fact that man is created in the image and likeness of God and has intrinsic value in that alone and not in what they do, ie their performance.

[She_is_my_ hero]

Yeah! Fist pump! Whoops I’m probably in trouble from you-know-who again just for responding.

[metmom]

For a protestant it's all about the, "personal relationship I have with Jesus Christ" and nothing will be allowed to come between them and Jesus.

It is.

Not even civilizational concerns. Radical individualism is the order of the day.

Yup, instead of herd mentality, they think for themselves.

Or maybe its a certain level of fatalism that protestants share with the muslims.

Pope kissing Koran

YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

I don't see Protestants smoozing it up with the muslims and kissing their koran.

[metmom]

While I appreciate your clarifying what you said and what you meant, did it occur to you that when more than one person misunderstands what you said, that perhaps you didn’t express it well?

[metmom]

God is most certainly the same God as the OT God.

The way he deals with and relates to men changed at the cross.

We are under the New Covenant now, not the Old Covenant.

It is relational, not performance based.

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

For a protestant it's all about the, “personal relationship I have with Jesus Christ” and nothing will be allowed to come between them and Jesus.

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Meanwhile Catholics need “seven degrees of separation” between themselves and Jesus.

You don't need intercessors. You are like the Israelites in the desert; they refused to go up the mountain and insisted Moses go on their behalf. Then they demanded he cover his face so they wouldn't see it glow from exposure to God's presence.

What stops you from going directly to Him? Why would you rather have a human goddess?

[metmom]

Honestly.

All one has to do is look at history since the Protestant Reformation and the predominant religion of the most successful and freest, and the most oppressive and oppressed countries, and it’s not hard to find a correlation.

And honestly, considering Elsie’s list of popes, and the history of the Catholic church, which is hardly pristine, and it’s laughable to think that the demise of civilization began with the rise of Protestantism.

I think we have a ways to go before we drop to the level the human race was at before Luther posted his 97 Thesis.

[JPX2011]

The USA. The Constitution. The Bill of Rights

The same institutions the permit the murder of millions of unborn children and are now the guarantors of deviant sexual practices. There will be a time when the United States will be no more. You do realize that, don't you? And it won't have anything to do with end times prophecy either. It's something a lot of protestants haven't given a lot of thought.

Show me the most highly Catholic countries in this world and I'll show you some of the most impoverished third world hell holes.

I wasn't aware that material wealth was an indication of spiritual health.

Show me Protestantism in Northern Europe and GB and I'll show you the Empire that the sun never set on.

Not anymore. I don't know how old you are, but when I consider that I'll be on this planet for probably the next 50-65 years (give or take) I'm not all that impressed with what Europe or the United States has to offer. I suspect I'll be witnessing a different order during my lifetime.

I'll show you scientific advancement and the freest nations. I'll show you the nations which defeated the Nazi's.

So what? The Nazi's are gone and I've got a couple of iPads. Means nothing to me.

One could be forgiven for thinking that protestants do worship the United States and not Christ. Just highlights the secular nature of protestantism.

[Religion Moderator]

Do not use a pejorative in lieu of a Freeper's name. That is "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

[caww]

...” we can go ‘directly’ before the Father. No fallible man between us and our heavenly Father”....

That reminded me when I first ‘asked God’ to show me if He was real ....(not realizing at the time that it was Jesus who was already working in my heart to even ask this)....then I began reading the scriptures......then I realized I needed a Savior....then Jesus met me and I He.

“These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may KNOW that you have eternal life.....This is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us.”...................I John 5:13

[CynicalBear]

I’m not missing your point at all. I believe it is you who is missing the point. In large bolded print you said “Let them make me a sanctuary, that I may dwell in their midst”. That was Old Testament prior to the death and ressurection of Christ. We are no longer to build that sanctuary. The rending of the veil removed that barrior between us and God. No longer does God sanction those “ sanctuaries”. Jesus said “wherever two or three are gathered in my name there I am in the midst of them. Prior to Christ’s death and resurrection only the high priest could approach but now we can go directly to the throne in Jesus name. Jesus now dwells in the hearts of believers.

[Rides_A_Red_Horse]

Thank you.

[JPX2011]

Do not use a pejorative in lieu of a Freeper's name. That is "making it personal."

Understood. I shall refrain from doing that in the future. Thank you.

[Elsie]

yes

[Religion Moderator]

Do not post articles or pictures from jesus-is-lord.com - like chick.com that website is not allowed at all on Free Republic.

[editor-surveyor]

It is you that miss it all!

His temple was a house of prayer, for men.

Not a den of idolatry where men should pray to their imaginary gods, and bow to idols.

He did not live in the temple, nor in the Ark. He was never in either of them in the sense you imagine; he dwells in his believers hearts.
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[editor-surveyor]

Different size crucifixes for different size demons?

I hope that musket has silver balls!
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[Elsie]

Protestants know where the true Church is and in their pride refuse to accept it.

[Elsie]

I'll entrust this to our Blessed Mother.

The DEAD one?

The one you do NOT pray to?

The one with NO GODlike powers?