Posted on 08/21/2014 1:10:45 PM PDT by NYer
I read at the National Catholic Register that His Excellency Most Reverend Paul Coakley, Archbishop of Oklahoma City has brough a suit against the people who would perpetrate a public Satanic event, a black mass.
OKLAHOMA CITY — Attorneys for the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City filed a lawsuit at noon today [20 Aug] to stop the satanic black mass that organizers are planning to stage next month in the Oklahoma City Civic Center Music Hall.
The lawsuit asks the Oklahoma County Sheriff‘s Office to retrieve the consecrated host that the event‘s organizers claim to have, and return it to Oklahoma City Archbishop Paul Coakley. The lawsuit also argues that the consecrated host was obtained under fraudulent circumstances, and thus it must be returned to the archdiocese.
“Our contention is that they are in possession of stolen property,” Archbishop Coakley told the Register. “They cannot complete their satanic ritual without a consecrated host, and they have no means of acquiring one except through theft. We are asking the court to order them to return it immediately to me.”
Archbishop Coakley added that the archdiocese, in consulting with the attorneys who filed the lawsuit, formulated a sound argument rooted in canon and civil law.
“We are trusting the court will recognize that and act accordingly,” the archbishop said. “We hope this is a way that we can prevent the desecration of the Eucharist from taking place by removing from their possession what they have obtained illegally, that is the consecrated host.”
Michael Caspino, [I met him during the recent Napa Institute conference. A stand-up guy.] one of two attorneys who filed the lawsuit on behalf of the archdiocese in Oklahoma District Court said the legal argument for the case is simple: “A consecrated Eucharist belongs to the Church.”
Caspino, the CEO and partner at the Busch & Caspino law firm in Irvine, Calif., told the Register that the Church has exercised “dominion and control” over the Eucharist for more than 2,000 years. The lawsuit provides information on Church processes set up to safeguard the consecrated host.
“The Satanists procured the consecrated host by illicit means, theft or fraud,” Caspino said. “We are simply asking the court to return the stolen property to its rightful owner, the Roman Catholic Church.”
Named as defendants are Adam Daniels, an Oklahoma County resident, and Dakhma of Angra Mainyu, a group that has rented the Oklahoma City Civic Center’s 88-seat City Theater to stage the black mass on Sept. 21. Daniels, a member of Dakhma of Angra Mainyu, has told various media outlets that a friend mailed him the consecrated host, and that it will be desecrated, “stomped on” and destroyed during the satanic ritual.
Daniels, who has been involved in organizing public Satanist events in Oklahoma City since 2010, is a registered sex offender.
Contacted by the Register, Daniels struck a defiant tone. He called the lawsuit “frivolous” and said it was meant to intimidate him from holding the black mass. He said the archdiocese’s efforts will backfire.
“It will not work. We are not cancelling. We are moving forward,” said Daniels, who also threatened to “sue everybody I can sue” for defamation of character. He added that the court has 14 days to serve him with the lawsuit.
“They have two weeks to serve me, if they can find me,” Daniels said.
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The Legal Argument
The legal argument in today’s lawsuit partly frames the consecrated host issue as a matter of property rights. It essentially argues that the Catholic Church, through its sacramental theology and code of canon law, sets the conditions for how the Eucharist is consecrated, distributed to the faithful and reposed. Anyone who deliberately obtains a consecrated host under illicit circumstances, either through sneaking it through the communion line or outright stealing it, violates the Church’s legal right to regulate its internal life.
“The Church is asking for the protection of its most basic right, namely not to have its sacraments used inappropriately. In civil law, Archbishop Coakley is acting as a responsible steward of the Eucharist. The Church enjoys the same protection of civil law that any other entity would enjoy,” said J.D. Flynn, a canon lawyer based in Lincoln, Neb.
Flynn told the Register that canon law spells out what is appropriate and inappropriate reception of the Eucharist. Anyone who discards a consecrated host, or retains it for a sacrilegious purpose, incurs an automatic excommunication that can only be redressed by the Holy See.
“If anyone obtains the host for sacrilegious purpose, they are violating the tenets by which the Eucharist is governed in the context of our Church,” Flynn said. “And the right of free exercise of religion allows us to administer the Eucharist in the context of the governing documents of our Church.”
The five-page lawsuit, as well as an accompanying declaration written by Dominican Father Joseph Fox, an expert in canon law, explain the theology behind the Eucharist and the various disciplines the Church has developed over its 2,000-year history to ensure the integrity and protection of consecrated hosts.
For example, the documents say that only a validly ordained priest can consecrate the Eucharist, and that ministers of Holy Communion need permission to take consecrated hosts outside a church building for specific pastoral purposes.
Father Fox writes that the Catholic Church “maintains ownership of all consecrated hosts throughout the world,” and that to Catholics, the consecrated host, making the person of Jesus Christ himself physically present, “is the most sacred, respected and revered thing in the world.”
The defendants, the lawsuit adds, “do not have consent or authorization” from Archbishop Coakley — who is tasked to safeguard the Church‘s property — to possess a consecrated host outside the church. The lawsuit is seeking a court order that the defendants not consume, damage or profane the consecrated host, if they indeed possess one.
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Read the rest there.
I hope that this lawsuit produces some positive results.
The legal approach, the argument that the Church is the owner of the Eucharist, which is property, is interesting. You might recall that a while back I commented favorably about something written by Fishwrap’s Phyllis Zagano (HERE), who had said that what these loons were planning was “vandalism of religious property“. At the time I expressed reservation about that approach. This lawsuit in OK turns on it.
Finally, from the NCReg article
Archbishop Coakley has previously asked that the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel be said at the end of every Mass, beginning on the Feast of the Transfiguration of the Lord on Aug. 6 and continuing through the Feast of the Archangels on Sept. 29. [I don't think they should stop doing it. As a matter of fact, they should reinstate the Leonine Prayers after all Masses.] The archbishop has also requested that individual Catholics and parishes make Eucharistic holy hours “to avert this sacrilege and publicly manifest our faith in the Lord and our loving gratitude for the gift of the Holy Eucharist, the source and summit of our lives.”
Ping!
The court will not do a thing about this.
interesting legal effort.
it could help if we knew how the Host got into the Satan people’s hands?
I wonder....theological question...
if indeed the Satan people have a consecrated Host, however obtained....
can the RCC simply “de-consecrate” it?
(theologically speaking)
then it would just be a simple cracker and it couldn’t be desecrated
just asking.... thanks
This is silly. It will be defeated.
>> can the RCC simply “de-consecrate” it?
Nope.
Okay, but Satanists aren't governed by the Church and the court cannot force them to be.
The legal argument of the host being property is a very interesting one. (I'm not Catholic, so please forgive my ignorance about the Eucharist.) How would this be any different from asking the court to make someone hand over a Bible, which is God's Holy Word and sacred to Christianity. Couldn't we claim that a Bible is property of the Church since our (the) God inspired it and our saints and prophets wrote it?
Why not?
According to this article, leader Adam Daniels claims:
"One of my priests in a foreign country is also a Catholic priest and he is the one who consecrated it himself and mailed it to me, and I’m not going to reveal his name and I’m not going to reveal what country he’s from," Daniels said in a phone interview Wednesday.
Since Satan is the Prince of Lies and Adam Daniels is his servant, I strongly doubt his statement.
Good luck with this. Eric Holder will probably personally help the Satan worshippers carry the Host to their black Mass, and cover it all up Waco-style. Broncobama will probably make a statement on their behalf in between rounds of golf. And George Soros is probably already giving the Satan worshippers money for a legal defense.
Considering God consecrated it in the first place, it might be a little tricky for man to undo His work.
maybe they just bought a case at Host Depot?
I mean, someone has to sell it, right? So they’ll just say they bought some from some guy somewhere. Prove otherwise.
Wow...I'll bet God has to bow down to that guy...
Fortunately the Constitution prevents the gov't from making laws against people for violating one religion's superstitious practices...So once you give one of those wafers away, it is no longer owned by the person who gave it, regardless of your religion's laws...
How could Jesus be so powerless to not being able to prevent himself from being put into the hands of Satanists???
And what happens if one accidentally (or intentionally) drops Jesus into a toilet??? Can not Jesus jump out of the wafer before he goes down the drain??? (Hold your breath Jesus...)
And how about when a priest drops Jesus and accidentally steps on him and crushes him??? Oops, sorry Jesus???
Give them all of the attention possible, that is what they are after.
Personally I think it is nuts.
And what happens if one accidentally (or intentionally) drops Jesus into a toilet??? Can not Jesus jump out of the wafer before he goes down the drain??? (Hold your breath Jesus...)
"If he were really God, he would have gotten down off that Cross."
....Father Fox writes that the Catholic Church “maintains ownership of all consecrated hosts throughout the world,” and that to Catholics, the consecrated host, making the person of Jesus Christ himself physically present, “is the most sacred, respected and revered thing in the world.”
Whaaaa.....? The Catholic Church owns the Body and Blood of Christ?
But seriously, how much is a consecrated host worth? I would think that, at best, the theft of a single host would be considered a misdemeanor crime. The value of a group of consecrated hosts, including the cost of the tabernacle they were held in, had previously been established via insurance claims to be no greater than $4,000.
Let'em.
The horror and shame of it only brings NORMAL Catholics (1.09 billion Catholics in the world) CLOSER to Jesus in the GENUINE Mass .
Also, knowing our hateful media, the Black Mass "event" will be covered like nobody's business. The mainstream media has always hated, deplored, loathed, detested, disliked and otherwise abhorred Catholics and evangelicals.
Nothing new here.
Yes, the Jews watching the Crucifixion said that. Their idea of the Messiah was different.
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